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Old 11-04-2005, 04:50 PM
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i checked the coil packs there in. car turns over but wont fire up. any ideas???
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1) make damn sure the coils are plugged in
2) make damn sure the timing is dot to dot
3) make sure the cam sensor harness is not pinched
4) do you have spark?
5) do you have fuel?
6) go over your work, double check everything

what kind of cam, stock heads or different ones, anything change in the valvetrain
Old 11-04-2005, 04:59 PM
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What he said above.

When you turn on the key do you hear the fuel pump run?
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double check your relay box, and the battery connection to it. also check your ground.
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should cam positioning sensor be changed if i retarted the cam? is the crank shaft positioning sensor affected by retarding the cam? are any of those adjustable? car wont fire up but made a few farting sounds out the tail pipes like timing is messed up

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No need to change the crank or cam sensors. If you're 100% sure that the coil packs are all connected and the plug wires are all on perfectly, then I'd check for a fouled plug if it's running that much like ****.
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car is not running-it wont fire
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Check grounds on the back of the head, mine got knocked loose once some way or another (don't remember how, exactly).

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Originally Posted by distortion_69
Check grounds on the back of the head, mine got knocked loose once some way or another (don't remember how, exactly).

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checked grounds on head-ok-checked cam positioning sensor-plugged in-coil packs are in. getting fuel and spark. im lost, car turns over fine but wont fire up. since i retarded the cam 4degrees do i have to do anything special to the ignition or anything?

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did u pull the fuel pump fues and not replace it? dont see how the grounds on the heads would have come loose if all you did was a cam swap. id pull the plug wires and reseat them again. make sure the big white connectors are fully seated on the coil packs also.
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i just pulled the intake-cam sensor was plugged in. put it all back- fuel pump fuse is in- plugs are all in- coil packs are plugged in-im getting fuel and spark. engine turns freely, just wont fire up-this sux
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Originally Posted by cyphur_traq
double check your relay box, and the battery connection to it. also check your ground.
i have a 2000 vette. were is the relay box and what am i looking for?

i did retard the cam 4 degrees but would that affect anything. the crank and timing chain were dot to dot-i put the crank snout into the keyway for 4 degrees retard

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Well if you have fuel and spark the only thing left would be compression right
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Dot to Dot? Think it needs a relearn? What all did you change besides the cam itself? That could give us a little more information about what could go wrong.

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agreed. need more info.
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Well he's says says that it has spark and fuel. In an earlier post he stated that the car went to fire like the timing was messed up. If it has spark and fuel I will assume everything is connected properly. Next in line would be compresson/Valve timing.

Are you 100% sure the cam was installed correctly!!!!????????? I hope the cam isnt out of time. The noise you heard before might of been bad news. Let us know.
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Are the coils in the right order?
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Sounds like a timing issue to me. When you moved the lower gear and retarded it, did the other key slots have a diffrent shape above them? Mine had a square on retard, a dot for straight up, and a triangle for advanced. Whichever slot you moved to, I would think that you would no longer be lining up "dot" to dot. It may now be "square" to dot or what not. I could be completly wrong, but I don't have a adjustable chain in front of me to look at.
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Sounds like a timing issues... or valves hung open...
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Originally Posted by Beast96Z
Sounds like a timing issue to me. When you moved the lower gear and retarded it, did the other key slots have a diffrent shape above them? Mine had a square on retard, a dot for straight up, and a triangle for advanced. Whichever slot you moved to, I would think that you would no longer be lining up "dot" to dot. It may now be "square" to dot or what not. I could be completly wrong, but I don't have a adjustable chain in front of me to look at.
my timing chain had a dot for straight up-then had no shapes to either advace or retard but the instuctions said 'to the right is to retard the cam-to the left is to advance the cam' so i put the crank snout pulley 2 slots to the right to retard the cam. then i lined up the the top gear and the bottom gear the way i would normally-dot to dot



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