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Old 11-18-2005, 06:24 PM
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As some people know ive been chasing a tuning problem for two weeks now I know now i have a ignition problem and it started at the track.My question has anyone ever have a reluctor ring come lose or slip to make your timing wacked out.I have no ses lights but i don't think you will if its a reluctor ring.Just curious was kind of problems you had and if there is anyway to check it before the motor comes out.
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With my old 422ci iron block yes. Engine would shut off above 6,000 rpms. Put it back in park and it would start right up.
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My car is acting like the timing is just way off.Im going to try a crank relearn but i dought it will work.
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How does it act?
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Hard to start and when its running and you rev its real slugish.And it pops out the exhaust if you try stabbing the throttle.At idle if it stays idling its like it has a small cam in it.Not healthy sounding like before.Ive changed and check more than i feel like typing this is not a normal problem thats why i think its a reluctor ring.It would just suck if i take it apart and thats not the problem.
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YES we have encountered this problem
one of the symptoms was the motor being VERY hard starting
was your crank nitrated when you did the rebuild???
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Originally Posted by thechef
YES we have encountered this problem
one of the symptoms was the motor being VERY hard starting
was your crank nitrated when you did the rebuild???
No it wasn't,my motor is four years old since i went forged?One thing i do remember is when the company balanced the crank they had to take the ring off and back then i wonder is they installed it right.I really started spining the motor harder at the end of this season 7400 i wonder if it sliped.Would a crank relearn help it.Im not looking for the fix but just pinpoint the problem.
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if its 4 years old since forged...youve been spinning it higher...I will put $100 the your thrust bearing is GONE and your crank is walking away from your CPS under load.

Is your stock tach still working?
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Originally Posted by 383LQ4SS
if its 4 years old since forged...youve been spinning it higher...I will put $100 the your thrust bearing is GONE and your crank is walking away from your CPS under load.

Is your stock tach still working?
Motor was just apart about two months ago for bearings and rings so i hope thats not the problem.And yes the stock tach still works.
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Have timed it with an osilliscope B-4 & checked to see if CKP/ CMP & TDC where out of relation. Difficult though.
Usually get a sync code though with that kind of problem,P 1336 I think?
Checked the wiring to & resistance of the CKP sensor?
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Originally Posted by wrencher
Have timed it with an osilliscope B-4 & checked to see if CKP/ CMP & TDC where out of relation. Difficult though.
Usually get a sync code though with that kind of problem,P 1336 I think?
Checked the wiring to & resistance of the CKP sensor?
Dud you need to talk english i can't fugure out some of your abrevations?And i can't spell eather. do you mean crank postion and the cam postion sensor ? we change both of them and got no difference ... do you mean check the timmig between them ? by the way just for the record i have no codes popping up on me ..

thanks for your help .

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sorry man ..had a couple of beers and tring to fiqure out what your saying
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If the reluctor wheel has been off, be wary. A lot of folks don't know how to put them back on.

Is the engine coming out anyway?
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Sorry...
CKP crank postion
CMP cam postion
You can put these signals on a osilliscope. Then put a comression gauge in #1 & a pressure tranducer & hook them all to a multi-channel osilliscope. Then check the timing of each in relation to one another. The pain is you may have to check a good known engine to know the sequence & relation to each other on an unknown set up.
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My crank sensor had to be replaced.
Car backfired at idle big time.
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My crank sensor had to be replaced.
Car backfired at idle big time.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
If the reluctor wheel has been off, be wary. A lot of folks don't know how to put them back on.

Is the engine coming out anyway?
Engine is coming out.



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