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Old 12-02-2005, 05:24 AM
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i have a stock bottom end, boltons, 3.73 gears 3500 stall.. which of these cams would give me the most power\accelration with a set of afr 205 heads....

also for any\all of these cams would afr 205's be the ideal head?

also im looking for a real nasty idle.. this car gets driven for fun only (mostly street raceing)
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get ready for flycutting. I'm pretty sure none of those cams will clear with afr 205s. I run an X3 on a 112 and it is close in terms of PTV. Most of those cams will make a lot of power up top. Are you ready to spin to 7k? it can be done on a stock bottom end. My limiter is set at 6900 and I have a stock bottom. you will want a bigger stall. something in the 4000-4200 rqange.
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with that stall, no bigger than the f-14. any of the other cams...4400 stall
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I vote G5X3.. Not as big but you'll get results..
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Originally Posted by yak
get ready for flycutting. I'm pretty sure none of those cams will clear with afr 205s. I run an X3 on a 112 and it is close in terms of PTV. Most of those cams will make a lot of power up top. Are you ready to spin to 7k? it can be done on a stock bottom end. My limiter is set at 6900 and I have a stock bottom. you will want a bigger stall. something in the 4000-4200 rqange.
The AFRs actually have more PtV clearance than stock heads, so any of those cams should fit without having to flycut.

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The torquer rev 2 cam from TSP looks interesting. I think its 232 234 112 +2 on x-er lobes.
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Originally Posted by Josh
The AFRs actually have more PtV clearance than stock heads, so any of those cams should fit without having to flycut.

Josh
is this true????
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If the AFR 205s are unmilled they will clear with the MS3.

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yea but what about actually having MORE p to v clearance than stock heads? i want to know if that is true.

would a t-rex fit w/ the AFR 205s?
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ok im thinkin the 5.3L tsp PRC 2.5 heads with a tsp 233\239 cam what you all think?
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i think it'll make some sick power.
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ok what about that compared to afr 205 heads and a g5x3 cam?
and what about the same afr 205 heads and a fm14 cam
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i don't know how the PRC heads perform relative to AFR heads.... AFR's are proven performers. as far as the cams... i don't know the specs on the G5X3 or the FM14.

someone fill me in?
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or to consolidate my thoughts im down to 3 ideas...
1: PRC 5.3L STAGE 2.5 HEADS WITH TSP 233\239 CAM $2400
2: FM 14 CAM AFR 205 HEADS $3200
3: G5X3 CAM AFR 205 HEADS $3100 (FLYCUTTING REQUIRED)
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are you sure you have to flycut with the G5x3? juggernaut used the G5X4 with AFR 205's and he said his pistons are not cut.
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What I Like About The Tsp Package Is It Is Economical And Makes Ok Power From What Ive Heard

What I Like About The Fms Package Is I Percieve It To Be The Most Popular

What I Like About The Lg Package Is They Claim Ill Be Shifting At 6600 Rpms And That This Cam Is Capible Of 480rwhp (on A M6)
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me - i'm all about drag racing, and max power... i'd do the LG cam w/ the AFR 205's. that's just me.
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i just spoke with bobby @ lg he said they mill their afr heads so they do need flycutting .. on out of the box afr 205's i dont think its nessary
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With that stall I think an F14 at the most. I would personally run a f11-f13.
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lg is tellin me im good to go with 3500 stall??


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