Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

T-Rex questions..

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-16-2005, 10:24 PM
  #1  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Green95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default T-Rex questions..

First let me say I tried the search but it wouldn't do anything except sit there so here I am.

I just got my 99 TA on Monday. Totaled my 95 Z on Sunday, getting somewhere around 6 grand for it. So far I have decided on a 12 bolt with 4.10's, sub frames, a 06 Vette clutch, LT and ORY.... Now... It was suggested to me to go with a T-Rex. I know it's a HUGE came, but other than springs, is there anything else I would need to do? Any suggestions on a better cam? To help out, my goal with this car is 450 to the wheels in the "nicest" way I can to my car, so no spray. As of now the car is totally stock with a 6 speed. Thanks in advance. Peace.
Old 12-16-2005, 11:00 PM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (8)
 
SSilverSSurfer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: College Station/Pasadena
Posts: 8,182
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

ur definitely gonna need hardened pushrods, reatainers, 450 might be kinda hard.....i think ....and the TREX is definitely a HUGE cam....and try to take car of all ur bolts ie: lid, intake, catback, etc...
Old 12-16-2005, 11:10 PM
  #3  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Green95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Oops. I should have said that 450 is my overall goal, not with just this money I should be getting. I don't want to be king of the streets or anything like that. Just able to hold my own. What's the biggest cam I can go without having to get headwork done?

Should I just get the 12 bolt, sub frames, clutch, long tubes, y-pipe and whatever bolt ons instead of worrying about a cam? Thanks
Old 12-16-2005, 11:38 PM
  #4  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 3,267
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

yeah i'de get all the bolt ons and a rear end first. If you plan on making some real power don't get the vette clutch, get like a spec or something.
Old 12-16-2005, 11:41 PM
  #5  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (7)
 
Nittany_marine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 637
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by SUX2BU
yeah i'de get all the bolt ons and a rear end first. If you plan on making some real power don't get the vette clutch, get like a spec or something.
I second that. I went with a Spec 3. Also, get the bolt ons first. I wish I had went that way the first time.
Old 12-17-2005, 01:26 AM
  #6  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Green95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well like I said, I am only wanting to put down around 450 to the wheels... Wouldn't the Vette clutch be enough for that?
Old 12-17-2005, 01:35 AM
  #7  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (2)
 
MountainMotor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 917
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yea, I'd definately go with the rear and bolt-on's before you try and touch the internals. You can always put a cam in but you'll be hating it if you blow out your rear-end and have to try and replace it when you don't have any $$.
Old 12-17-2005, 08:32 AM
  #8  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
dogger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Myerstown, PA
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

the ls6 clutch is almost as week as the ls1 clutch and with 450hp your going to be trying to hook it up with tires and suspension because it'll spin a lot and that'll spell disaster for a ls6 clutch. also you will want to get a ported ls6 oil pump when you put in the cam.

if it were me and the budget aloud I'd go with a set of head's and a milder cam because teh trex cam deosn't like ported head's as well and it'll give you a smooth set up on the street and most people wouldn't be able to tell there isn't anything other then exhaust on it.
Old 12-17-2005, 09:13 AM
  #9  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (9)
 
alans02z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Etowah
Posts: 351
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Well with a 12 bolt, 450 cam only is going to be very hard. And I take it this may be driven alot? If so, do heads. You won't regret it. Have you thought about the Trak cam and afr's? Definately over 450 and really fun to drive. I have a Trex, and its alot of fun, until you get into a crowded parking lot or very heavy traffic, and more than likely would bug most people. Doesn't bother me, but its a matter of what you can handle.
Old 12-17-2005, 09:23 AM
  #10  
TECH Fanatic
 
SideStep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by dogger
the ls6 clutch is almost as week as the ls1 clutch and with 450hp your going to be trying to hook it up with tires and suspension because it'll spin a lot and that'll spell disaster for a ls6 clutch. also you will want to get a ported ls6 oil pump when you put in the cam.

if it were me and the budget aloud I'd go with a set of head's and a milder cam because teh trex cam deosn't like ported head's as well and it'll give you a smooth set up on the street and most people wouldn't be able to tell there isn't anything other then exhaust on it.
If you are not running slicks or DRs you should be fine with the ZO6 clutch. I have been using it for over a year (@450rwhp) and beating on it every chance I get. If you do go to slicks or DRs you had better look for something meaner/stronger ...

Old 12-17-2005, 10:04 AM
  #11  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
s346k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: johnson co.
Posts: 3,433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

get the x-3 and a good set of heads...you'd have a way more streetable setup and still attain 450+ rwhp. just a word of advice, i'd shy away from anything much above 6,500 rpm with your 99, as the pre-00 blocks have oil return issues that cause bearing starvation. you need to do more homework on a cam swap itself, not just a "t-rex" cam swap. there are MANY things to consider when upgrading your cam. also with the better rear, etc etc...homework man, homework!
Old 12-17-2005, 10:06 AM
  #12  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
SUX2BU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: DFW, TX
Posts: 3,267
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by SideStep
If you are not running slicks or DRs you should be fine with the ZO6 clutch. I have been using it for over a year (@450rwhp) and beating on it every chance I get. If you do go to slicks or DRs you had better look for something meaner/stronger ...

What fun is 450rwhp without traction.
Old 12-17-2005, 11:41 AM
  #13  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (4)
 
Camaro99SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 879
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

A better overall choice for a stock bottom end car IMO would be a TSP 233/239 or the F13 or F14 from Futral Motorsports. A number of people have made ~410rwhp cam only through an M6 with the TSP grind with bolt ons. And even with stock heads, that hp peak didn't come until around 6000rpm, requiring at least 6700 shift points to get the most out of it. Not that a stock shortblock can't take that, but with the stock rod bolts, that's getting close. Also, anything bigger, and the power brakes will start becoming really mushy.

Jason
Old 12-17-2005, 11:57 AM
  #14  
Banned
iTrader: (115)
 
99blancoSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: ST Helens, OR
Posts: 9,892
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

IS this a street car or a track car? You said you want to be "king of the streets"
How much actual track time will this car see? My numbers are in my sig and its a beast on the streets but I would have done something different for a track only car. If your build your car for the best times at the track is isnt exactly the best car on the streets same is true the other way around as well.
Old 12-18-2005, 10:38 PM
  #15  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (13)
 
eric01ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: arlington aka aggtown
Posts: 2,677
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Get a 12 bolt, get Ls7 or spec 4 and get all ur boltons and then get a MS3 from texas speed or get a Trak cam from Thunder Racing
Old 12-23-2005, 02:34 PM
  #16  
Staging Lane
Thread Starter
 
Green95Z28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 58
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

First off thaks to everyone.

99blancoSS - No, I said I DON'T want to be king of the streets or anything. There will always be somebody faster.

s34k - Homework... That's what I'm doin' bro. As I said, somebody said the T-Rex is a good cam, so I was asking about it.

To everyone who suggested a 12 bolt.. That's what I said in my original post. 12 bolt is already a definate buy. Just got word today, my Camaro is totaled and I am getting a hair under 6 grand for it.

So far, I KNOW I AM getting a 12 bolt with 4:10s, sub frames, a shaner s3 TB, long tubes and ORY. My bro in law is going to give me his lid because he is getting a new one. All I am trying to figure out is what cam to go with. Any other suggestions? Thanks again.
Old 12-23-2005, 02:43 PM
  #17  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (28)
 
Ωmega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I know you mentioned bolt-ons earlier, but make sure you upgrade the intake. Also, if you're keeping the stock catback, get a nice electric cutout.
Old 12-23-2005, 02:45 PM
  #18  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (28)
 
Ωmega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Also, I'd like to suggest the MS3. It's awesome for a cam-only setup, and responds great when your throw some 5.3 heads at it too
Old 12-26-2005, 09:21 PM
  #19  
Teching In
 
JPH910's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Arlington, Texas
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ωmega
Also, I'd like to suggest the MS3. It's awesome for a cam-only setup, and responds great when your throw some 5.3 heads at it too
Thanks man. You don't have a link do ya? (Same person just finally changed my name. Couldn't very well stay with a name which suggested I still own a LT1 now could I? )
Old 12-26-2005, 10:23 PM
  #20  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (28)
 
Ωmega's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 522
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I would if I could find it, search is down right now, so I can't find the graphs now. But Texas Speed sells both http://www.texas-speed.com Also, you should talk to Jason from TSP, he's a good guy and knows his stuff too

EDIT

Also, I'm sure Jason has some proof of the power it makes laying around that he could hook you up with.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:15 AM.