big cams & P/V clearance @ 63cc
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big cams & P/V clearance @ 63cc
OK im getting stupid again because im thinking about changing cams............
What is the largest cam I can go with without worrying about my valves tagging my pistons.
Ill be having my AFR 205s with 63cc and the GM MSL .051 gasket installed (quenched ) installed in the spring.
whats safe cam size without cutting the pistons ?
What is the largest cam I can go with without worrying about my valves tagging my pistons.
Ill be having my AFR 205s with 63cc and the GM MSL .051 gasket installed (quenched ) installed in the spring.
whats safe cam size without cutting the pistons ?
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Phil here is a quote from Allan at Futral and a link to the post (#32)...
It looks like you can get away with a F13 (112lsa +4) and have .086"\.167" clearence. BTW I had this exact same setup and it was a stump puller for TQ!!! The only reason I fly-cut my pistons was I am using .045 Cometics and my intake clearence was less than .077".
I have been all over this subject, let me know if I can help. Getting ready to install my 4th cam in 14 months...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...5&page=4&pp=10
It looks like you can get away with a F13 (112lsa +4) and have .086"\.167" clearence. BTW I had this exact same setup and it was a stump puller for TQ!!! The only reason I fly-cut my pistons was I am using .045 Cometics and my intake clearence was less than .077".
I have been all over this subject, let me know if I can help. Getting ready to install my 4th cam in 14 months...
Originally Posted by Futral Motorsports
Just to inform everybody,some average P\V clearances .
AFR heads milled .024" to 62CC with F14 -112+4 .075"\.152" with checker springs,solid lifters and .054" GM MLS gaskets on STOCK pistons. Same heads with F13-112+4 .086"\.167". If you miss a shift and float the valves your exhaust is whats at risk,not the intake.
AFR heads milled .024" to 62CC with F14 -112+4 .075"\.152" with checker springs,solid lifters and .054" GM MLS gaskets on STOCK pistons. Same heads with F13-112+4 .086"\.167". If you miss a shift and float the valves your exhaust is whats at risk,not the intake.
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Thanks side,
Maybe Ill just give up a couple horses, and save a couple bucks and leave the TR224 in and see what kind of numbers I end up with after the AFRs are bolted on. My CC should be between the 62.5 and 63cc. I had .020 taken off and Ill be using the stock GM gasket.
I knew I could have bigger, but if I keep my baby cam maybe Ill have less to worry about in the long run
Maybe Ill just give up a couple horses, and save a couple bucks and leave the TR224 in and see what kind of numbers I end up with after the AFRs are bolted on. My CC should be between the 62.5 and 63cc. I had .020 taken off and Ill be using the stock GM gasket.
I knew I could have bigger, but if I keep my baby cam maybe Ill have less to worry about in the long run
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Im doing the opposite phil. im going from a fm14 with flycuts to an fm6. so ill have plenty of room but with the flycuts ill have a little less compression. by the way that is my favorite color vette-magnetic red id keep the cam you have and see what the HP is, then decide
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Originally Posted by Phil'sC5vette
Thanks side,
Maybe Ill just give up a couple horses, and save a couple bucks and leave the TR224 in and see what kind of numbers I end up with after the AFRs are bolted on. My CC should be between the 62.5 and 63cc. I had .020 taken off and Ill be using the stock GM gasket.
I knew I could have bigger, but if I keep my baby cam maybe Ill have less to worry about in the long run
Maybe Ill just give up a couple horses, and save a couple bucks and leave the TR224 in and see what kind of numbers I end up with after the AFRs are bolted on. My CC should be between the 62.5 and 63cc. I had .020 taken off and Ill be using the stock GM gasket.
I knew I could have bigger, but if I keep my baby cam maybe Ill have less to worry about in the long run
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I've got Absolute Speed 64cc heads that were set up for a TR224. I decided to go with a Comp XER 224/228 .588/.591. Wouldn't fit I only had .045 clearance on the intakes, had to notch. A friend of mine had AFR 61cc heads, which is a .020 mill, and AFR reccommended a Comp XER 224/228 .581/.588 and that cam fit no problem. You could probably go a little bigger since your heads are not milled.
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Originally Posted by bigdsz
I've got Absolute Speed 64cc heads that were set up for a TR224. I decided to go with a Comp XER 224/228 .588/.591. Wouldn't fit I only had .045 clearance on the intakes, had to notch. A friend of mine had AFR 61cc heads, which is a .020 mill, and AFR reccommended a Comp XER 224/228 .581/.588 and that cam fit no problem. You could probably go a little bigger since your heads are not milled.
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You're right my friends AFR's were milled .024" the first time for I believe 61.5 cc. He had them milled by AFR again recently to .034" at 59cc. We put a Comp XER cam in that was a little bigger than the Trex and we had to notch I'm pretty sure .100 on the intake.
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Originally Posted by SideStep
Phil here is a quote from Allan at Futral and a link to the post (#32)...
It looks like you can get away with a F13 (112lsa +4) and have .086"\.167" clearence. BTW I had this exact same setup and it was a stump puller for TQ!!! The only reason I fly-cut my pistons was I am using .045 Cometics and my intake clearence was less than .077".
I have been all over this subject, let me know if I can help. Getting ready to install my 4th cam in 14 months...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...5&page=4&pp=10
It looks like you can get away with a F13 (112lsa +4) and have .086"\.167" clearence. BTW I had this exact same setup and it was a stump puller for TQ!!! The only reason I fly-cut my pistons was I am using .045 Cometics and my intake clearence was less than .077".
I have been all over this subject, let me know if I can help. Getting ready to install my 4th cam in 14 months...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...5&page=4&pp=10