224 vs cheatr?
02-07-2006, 02:14 AM
#1
224 vs cheatr? for a daily driver? i just need some more bang. im tired of being the guy in the middle no one wants to run. thunder says that they can get almost 400 rwhp with the 224 and full bolt ons which i have. will the cheatr be able to give me similar or more performance? like i said daily driver and i would like to keep it civil. a/c is always on and does get caught in traffic on occasion. only thing with the cheatr is with that much lift is going to be killing my springs every 10k miles? car only has 13 on it but will be getting alot more.
02-07-2006, 08:45 AM
#3
The CheaTR works great with headers or stock manifolds. It's going to be much more docile than the 224 cam (because of reduced overlap). As long as you have good springs (preferably duals like Patriot/PRC duals), and shim them to within .050 of coil bind, you'll be good for 30k miles, at least.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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02-07-2006, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DocEwww
Do you have headers? The cheatr is made for stock manifolds for the most part.
I say get the 224 on a 114LSA unless u really dont want ANY lope.
I say get the 224 on a 114LSA unless u really dont want ANY lope.
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02-07-2006, 12:11 PM
#9
Originally Posted by Patrick G
As long as you have good springs (preferably duals like Patriot/PRC duals), and shim them to within .050 of coil bind, you'll be good for 30k miles, at least.
Are the shims necessary with duals? I have Patriot Golds in some ported heads that I'm getting ready to install along with the Cheatr cam. I remember talk of needing to shim 918s for this cam, but I hadn't heard of needing them with duals. Can you verify this? Thanks.
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02-07-2006, 12:28 PM
#10
Originally Posted by bshell
Patrick,
Are the shims necessary with duals? I have Patriot Golds in some ported heads that I'm getting ready to install along with the Cheatr cam. I remember talk of needing to shim 918s for this cam, but I hadn't heard of needing them with duals. Can you verify this? Thanks.
Sorry for the hijack.
Are the shims necessary with duals? I have Patriot Golds in some ported heads that I'm getting ready to install along with the Cheatr cam. I remember talk of needing to shim 918s for this cam, but I hadn't heard of needing them with duals. Can you verify this? Thanks.
Sorry for the hijack.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
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02-07-2006, 11:00 PM
#11
Originally Posted by Patrick G
No side effects at all. CheaTR is great with headers.
I won't mind my daily driver sounding just like a bolt-on car once i get my cheatr cam and bigger stall put in... hopefully I'll be able to sneak up on a few people
02-07-2006, 11:11 PM
#12
Originally Posted by rdeterman
if you already have the boltons why not just go with the 224 thats kind of a no brainer
will there be more power on the table with either of these cams? id like to get the most bang i can and retain driveability.
