FUN LS1

I was going to get the F14 (good power with a lot of overlap, cammotion lobes), but someone is trying to talk me into Comp's XER281. Both would be on a 112 SLA. Both cams have durations at .50 of 232/234, the lift is very similar: just under .600. The Comp lobes are more aggressive though, duration at .006 is 281/283, so the ramp duration is only about 51 degrees, which seems pretty aggressive. I have 4.10's so I don't think either cam is too big. I have all the bolt-ons, and expect to add an LS6 intake shortly after the cam, and some ported LS6 heads by this summer. I'm looking to make as much over 400 rwhp as possible, but would like to keep the torque up as high as possible too.

Any suggestions or comments from folks who have these cams or know both of them? Is it worth grinding in a few degrees of advance to favor the torque, or is there a better way, like bigger split for the exhaust duration? Or maybe way bigger lift and smaller duration on the intake (a la TRAK Cam)?

Thx

GuitsBoy

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The comp 232/234 is the TSP torquer. Same duration and lift specs, same XE-R lobes. Many people have made great power with both cams, although i have not seen any direct comparisons. I would think the XE-R lobes have a little more lobe area than the cammotion lobes, and thus should make a little more power. Even though both cams have 9 degrees of overlap, I have a feeling the comp will lope a little harder. For more docile drivability id look at the futral, but for power and sound, the comp.

slpss9723

I have an F14 and the actual specs are 232.8/234.2 .59788/.60109 on 112.1LSA, so it is actually a little bigger on duration and lift than advertised.....all i know is that it is a bad *** cam, i could not be happier with my choice, i would assume based on specs that both cams would perform similarly, however i have heard a lot more proven results from the F14 than the Torquer 2.......and now i have my own results that reinforced all the good things that i heard. Just my .02.

FUN LS1

Thanks, now that I know this the Torquer, I'm sure I can find a bunch of comparisson posts with dyno runs...

GuitsBoy

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I think you had it right and then editied it. Its the Torquer 2.

freakynipples69

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You know what I am gonna pick. FM14 all the way.

8banger

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Similar specs, not the same cams. The Torquer 2 seems to have a little less lift, and plus, one VERY important difference: it is ground on Comp XE-R lobes, where as the FMS cam is ground on Cam Motion lobes. Which one you prefer is up to you. I personally like the Cam Motion lobes, a little nicer idle, more power under the curve, and not quite as hard on the valvetrain. That's just me, though.

FUN LS1

Yeah, becuase I saw just "Torquer" in your post (thanks, btw), but when I got on line at TSP, I saw it was the Torquer v2. I also saw that 233/239, which looks pretty stout, too.

FUN LS1

Yeah I like the flatter torque curves of the Cammotion lobes too; I noticed the torque curves are pretty parabolic on the TSP cams, starting slow, and diving past peak. I'd also heard they weren't as agressive as XER lobes (51* of ramp duration) But with dual springs I'm well under tolerances. I'd probably give up a little low end torque for 15 HP up top, 'cause I don't think it'll matter with 4.10's... As I said above, I'd already picked the F14, but an fbody guy I know was trying to talk me into what I orignially thought was just a Comp Cams off the shelf grind until you guys enlightened me on it being the Torquer II. In fact, I called Comp's Cam Help line about it, and they never mentioned the name.

Chicago Crew UnderBoss

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Sounds like the FM 14 gets my vote to for all of the main positive reasons above, less wear and tear on the drivetrain not being the least of them!