Tr224 112 Good For My Setup???
03-01-2006, 02:14 PM
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Tr224 112 Good For My Setup??? I plan on getting the Tr224 224 112 cam but have heard that this may not be the best choice due to my shorty headers. I also can't go any bigger due to smog emissions here in CA. I know basically this cam will need a good tune to pass as well. I definitly want a well definied lope with good peak power for its size and this cam seems to have it. The car is a daily driver and I don't care on a rough idle at all. I plan on getting heads within the next few months as well to complement this... maybe AFR 205's or 225's??? I don't know, I definietly need help in that area as well. So anyways will this cam be worthwhile or is there something else... I don't want like a cheaTR cam or something else will stock lope. Thanks for the help!
03-01-2006, 02:33 PM
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sounds good to me, even through shorties itll lope and gain horsepower across the curve, im thinking of either that cam or the tr230/224, so if u do get it lemme know how u like it 
03-01-2006, 02:41 PM
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My car is a daily driver.
I can only tell you what I know. But I have been running my TR224 112 now for 2 yrs. I ran it almost 6months without a tune and it did ok. I say ok because it idled rough and lopy. And I could forget about running A/C on it. It sucked driving on a hot day.
After I had it tuned it was nite and day. It runs smoother. On cold starts it kinda starts off rough and lopy, but once it warms up, might as well be a stock idle. A/C is not a problem anymore except when the car is cold. I guess it has to do with how I'm tuned. I think it has trouble when its cold, because my tune makes the car run in a closed loop.
The lope is perfect IMO. Power wise it felt the same as stock without the tune. BTW I ran my cam with stock manifolds, which many say are the same as shorties. After I had it tuned I could tell the was more power on tap. I didnt get LT headers till a yr later.
Ive read on other posts, where people in CA that run this cam have stated that with a good tune you could pass emissions with no problems. I have no regrets and about this cam and I would suggest getting your car tuned ASAP after you get this cam installed.
For daily drivers I couldnt see anything bigger for simple reasons. Bigger cams, require taller gears, wont let you run untuned, and lope pretty crazy.
I would think that with a set of nice heads like the AFRs you should be very pleased over stock.
Just my 2 cents..........
I can only tell you what I know. But I have been running my TR224 112 now for 2 yrs. I ran it almost 6months without a tune and it did ok. I say ok because it idled rough and lopy. And I could forget about running A/C on it. It sucked driving on a hot day.
After I had it tuned it was nite and day. It runs smoother. On cold starts it kinda starts off rough and lopy, but once it warms up, might as well be a stock idle. A/C is not a problem anymore except when the car is cold. I guess it has to do with how I'm tuned. I think it has trouble when its cold, because my tune makes the car run in a closed loop.
The lope is perfect IMO. Power wise it felt the same as stock without the tune. BTW I ran my cam with stock manifolds, which many say are the same as shorties. After I had it tuned I could tell the was more power on tap. I didnt get LT headers till a yr later.
Ive read on other posts, where people in CA that run this cam have stated that with a good tune you could pass emissions with no problems. I have no regrets and about this cam and I would suggest getting your car tuned ASAP after you get this cam installed.
For daily drivers I couldnt see anything bigger for simple reasons. Bigger cams, require taller gears, wont let you run untuned, and lope pretty crazy.
I would think that with a set of nice heads like the AFRs you should be very pleased over stock.
Just my 2 cents..........
03-04-2006, 09:21 PM
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does anyone happen to have a video on the sound of this cam w/stock manifolds or shorties... of course i've been to ls1sounds.com but they all have bolt on's or heads to go along with the cam
03-05-2006, 04:56 AM
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If you don't plan on getting longtubes, then this is a POOR cam choice. This cam is made with longtubes in mind, and you'll see poor hp gains on stock manifolds. I've personally seen a guy make 350 rwhp with the TR224, stage III 5.3l heads and SHORTY headers. 
With the TR224, heads and longtubes however, you should be over 400 rwhp. 
You'd be much better off with a cam designed for shorty headers. You need to build your car so all of the parts work together, otherwise you'll be very disappointed. To specifically answer your question, this cam would be a very poor choice for your setup and will not work well at all.
With the TR224, heads and longtubes however, you should be over 400 rwhp. You'd be much better off with a cam designed for shorty headers. You need to build your car so all of the parts work together, otherwise you'll be very disappointed. To specifically answer your question, this cam would be a very poor choice for your setup and will not work well at all. 
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I think you would want something with a split duration. Longer on the Exhaust side to make up for the shortcommings of the exhaust set up. I love my TR224, but have Kooks long tubes. As for the heads, the 225's are too big for that cam and would give up a lot of low end tq. 205's are a better choice for a smaller cam and a stock cube engine.
03-05-2006, 02:01 PM
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so could I go with something more split towards the exhust like a tr224/227??? thats what thunder racing has but its on a 114 lsa and I'm looking for somthing a little more lopy like a 112.
03-05-2006, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RrCoX22
so could I go with something more split towards the exhust like a tr224/227??? thats what thunder racing has but its on a 114 lsa and I'm looking for somthing a little more lopy like a 112.
That's probably too much duration for stock manifolds. Bigger, lopier cams are going to need longtubes in order to work right and make good power. My little 216/220 has worked well for shorty headers. You might even want to consider something more like a 220/224 .5xx"/.5xx" on a 112 lsa.
03-05-2006, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 00cls1camaross
look at the cheatR cam it is designed to run with stock manifolds or shorties...
AFR 205's will compliment this cam pretty well also.
