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Old 03-03-2006, 08:19 AM
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I've got Dart 205's on the way from Summit, suprisingly they got them out quick, I thought I would have to wait. The heads are 62cc chambers. If I use an .041 head gasket my static compresion will be around 11.1/1, and the quench will be .033. The thing that bothers me is the DCR will be around 8.7/1. I read that you don't want to go above 8.5. I can use an .054 gasket and get the DCR to or just below 8.5 but that pushes the quench up above .050, also not good. I'm thinking go for the .033 quench and 8.7 DCR won't be a problem. Am I wrong? Also can you use a 4.135 dia. head gasket on a stock bore motor 3.898? Thanks.
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Why not just use a GM head gasket.
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Originally Posted by 2001 Pewter WS6
Why not just use a GM head gasket.
The GM gasket is .054 I believe. That will put the DCR just below 8.5 but the quench above .050. That's what I'm unsure of, whats more important, keeping the quench in the optimum range or keeping the DCR below 8.5?
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8.7 DCR will not be an issue, run colder plugs, 93/94 octane
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Originally Posted by 1bdindn
I've got Dart 205's on the way from Summit, suprisingly they got them out quick, I thought I would have to wait. The heads are 62cc chambers. If I use an .041 head gasket my static compresion will be around 11.1/1, and the quench will be .033. The thing that bothers me is the DCR will be around 8.7/1. I read that you don't want to go above 8.5. I can use an .054 gasket and get the DCR to or just below 8.5 but that pushes the quench up above .050, also not good. I'm thinking go for the .033 quench and 8.7 DCR won't be a problem. Am I wrong? Also can you use a 4.135 dia. head gasket on a stock bore motor 3.898? Thanks.
Have you tried calculating a different cam or cam timing that will lower your DCR to 8.5 using the .041 gasket? I would like to know the answer to this if it is not too hard to calculate.

Your 224 cam may have +4 degrees advance ground in already. Will retarding your 224 cam -4 degrees reduce DCR?

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Originally Posted by gollum
Have you tried calculating a different cam or cam timing that will lower your DCR to 8.5 using the .041 gasket? I would like to know the answer to this if it is not too hard to calculate.

Your 224 cam may have +4 degrees advance ground in already. Will retarding your 224 cam -4 degrees reduce DCR?
That's a good thought. The cam is +4. If I move it to straight up with a .041 head gasket it will lower the DCA to around 8.3. The quench will be the same at .033. Whatever closes the intake valve later in the compression stroke will lower the DCA,a longer duration cam or from your idea of retarding the cam. I think this is right. What does retarding the cam do, raise or lower the power band?
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Retarding cam raises power band very very slightly. You can do this simply by installing camshaft degree bushings.http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp

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Does your TR224 cam have a 112 or 114 lsa?
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Does your TR224 cam have a 112 or 114 lsa?
114 LSA
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It sounds like you have a pretty good street combination. I will also be sticking with my 224 cam in sig. Can you post pictures of your heads? Intake ports, combustion chambers, valve pockets, etc

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