F13 & Bad Lifters
03-07-2006, 03:02 PM
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F13 & Bad Lifters i purchased my cam last march in a group purchase and have put 3-4 K on the car since. yesterday i called futural and talked to david and asked him if i was one of the ones that had the bad batch of cams because of the time frame of the purchase. i explained to him that i don't drive my Z06 that much and asked for some advise on what to do. i was told told to pretty much drive my car until something happens and then they will address it. at the rate i drive my car that would be 5 years seening that most lifters are taking a **** around 15k. david had spoken to allen on his cell while i was on hold and after i got that response david said "i am only doing what i am told." i then told david that i would call allen back, so i did and once he was busy and 5 minutes later he was gone. i gave david my number and he told me allen would call me but he never did. needless to say i am going to pull my cam and see what i find. never did they offer to take the cam back for inspection or even bother to look me up in their records to see if i was in the bad cam time frame. what great customer service. 
03-07-2006, 04:47 PM
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i just called futral about an hour ago and i asked for allen and he was busy,So i asked the guy i was talking to about some of the bad lifters that have been run on there cams and what the cause is.All he said was something with the stock lifters not providing the proper oil.He didnt say anything about bad materials being used.Just so you everyone knows.I really dont think they know for sure whats doing it.
03-07-2006, 04:50 PM
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I would imagine right now they are buried in phone calls. I personally would do an oil analysis as I identified in the other thread on this prior to pulling the car apart. That would give a good indication. Contact Terry Dyson at Dyson Analysis and discuss it with him.
03-07-2006, 04:51 PM
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Seems to be lots of confusion about this. I am in the same boat, my cam is in my car, and seems to be OK. But I would rather get it out BEFORE something goes wrong rather than wait till it happens.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/464304-my-f13-ate-my-lifters.html
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03-07-2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by redtail2426
i just called futral about an hour ago and i asked for allen and he was busy,So i asked the guy i was talking to about some of the bad lifters that have been run on there cams and what the cause is.All he said was something with the stock lifters not providing the proper oil.He didnt say anything about bad materials being used.Just so you everyone knows.I really dont think they know for sure whats doing it.
03-07-2006, 05:21 PM
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I purchased my cam from them in december-janurary of last year(one of the months, don't remember exactly when), and I am still a bit nervous of putting the cam back in my brand new engine. I guess the shitty cams were in the march-may time frame of last year so I should be good.
But Futral needs to step their game up and get to the bottom of this because there are a lot of unhappy customers out there, and I'll go medival on their asses if their cam causes my new engine to get fucked up.
But Futral needs to step their game up and get to the bottom of this because there are a lot of unhappy customers out there, and I'll go medival on their asses if their cam causes my new engine to get fucked up.
03-07-2006, 05:32 PM
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You guys have nothing to worry about if you're using the correct length pushrods, correct preload, new lifters, and have an upgraded/ported oil pump.
If it was a Cam Motion grinding problem, vendors all across the US would be having the same problems. Cam Motion is a VERY reputable cam manufacturer and supplies hundreds of shops across the US.
Mike
If it was a Cam Motion grinding problem, vendors all across the US would be having the same problems. Cam Motion is a VERY reputable cam manufacturer and supplies hundreds of shops across the US.
Mike
03-07-2006, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Kraest
You guys have nothing to worry about if you're using the correct length pushrods, correct preload, new lifters, and have an upgraded/ported oil pump.
If it was a Cam Motion grinding problem, vendors all across the US would be having the same problems. Cam Motion is a VERY reputable cam manufacturer and supplies hundreds of shops across the US.
Mike
If it was a Cam Motion grinding problem, vendors all across the US would be having the same problems. Cam Motion is a VERY reputable cam manufacturer and supplies hundreds of shops across the US.
Mike
03-07-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by algws6
then why is it that they already admitted there was a problem? how is it that all these guys, even some that bought a whole package from futural have the wrong pushrod length and wrong preload? as far as a ported oil pump, i ran a stocker in my H/C and spray WS6 for years and never had a problem.
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03-07-2006, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by camaroextra
dammit i wanted an f13 until now. .
I would still get one!
If it was a bad batch or improper set up either way you should be good to go. Just set it up correctly and should be no issues. Just don't abuse the hell out of it case anything and everything breaks!!
This could seriously be a bunch of different issues, every failure does not mean it is from the same thing. That would be up to them to decide once they examine the cam and lifters.
I could easily see some selfish *** trying to blame Cam Motion or Futral for his improper install when a small percentage may have a legitimate issue.
03-07-2006, 06:49 PM
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But Futral needs to step their game up and get to the bottom of this because there are a lot of unhappy customers out there, and I'll go medival on their asses if their cam causes my new engine to get fucked up..
03-07-2006, 07:51 PM
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good thing this came up as im just in the middle of installing my new f13 
oh well **** it. guess it just gives me an excuse toi get some heads sooner the planned!
oh well **** it. guess it just gives me an excuse toi get some heads sooner the planned!
03-07-2006, 09:16 PM
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Dont **** on futral. Anyone looking at the f13 cam - just get it. Its a great cam. Something was wrong with a small batch of futral cams from last year, thats all. There are probably thousands of f-13s running around out there. There are only a handful of us who have had this lifter issue. Please done let a few bad cams ruin the fun for the rest...