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Old 04-02-2006, 08:50 AM
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Default Crane rocker arm disassembly help

I have my old heads off the car and when I pulled the rockers, the studs came with them. The problem now is the jam nut and adjusting nuts are locked together. So far, I have broken four 3/16 allen wrenches and have tried jam nuts on the metric side of the stud, not luck at all. Since this will be an issue for future spring maintenance, I am seriously thinking of just returning the to stock rockers as much as I hate to.

Anyone run into this and know a sure fire solution?
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Get a hold of Mark Cambell (sp? ) from Crane or call Vinci, they can help.
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I have tried everything, makes one wonder how to handle a spring swap later, it could end up being a huge job.
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Can you lock 2 nuts together on the threads that go into the head? Then clamp that into a bench vise. Then use a long wrench/breaker bar to break the nut/set screw side loose. I dont want to say how I know!!!!!! But I had to do that for the first ones I put in, when I first put the studs in mine. I locked the nut/ set screw that they provide for installing the studs in the wrong way. Basically way over tightening it to where you couldn't break it loose.
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Tried that, didn't work. I will try again. I may order the collet to fit my Snap-On stud removal tool for the metric thread and try that. At least I know I am not alone
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Tried that, didn't work. I will try again. I may order the collet to fit my Snap-On stud removal tool for the metric thread and try that. At least I know I am not alone
I'm diffenetly cheering for you! I only had 2 stuck though. Once I locked it in the vise I used a long closed-in wrench with the longest allen I had, maybe 6" long. I tried to hold the allen still while tightening the nut, then backing out the allen. Basicalling I was turning the nut one way and the allen the other till it finally broke free.
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I have broke or rounded all the Allen wrenches I have. I ordered the Snap-On stud remover for 8mm threads so that should hold the side that goes into the head. I can then hopefully just turn the adjusting nut and break it free. Someone suggested that you grind the bottom of the allen jam nut flat to prevent this problem.
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Just wanted to follow-up since I did get them apart. I bought a Snap-On stud remover for the 8mm-1.25 thread. This is a two piece tool that includes a collet (part # GC500-37) and housing (part # GC500-2). The collet threads onto the thread and then the housing is tightened onto the collet effectively clamping the threads without damage. They came right off once I had a way to hold the stud so I could simply loosen the adjusting nut.

Anyway, if you are using stud mounted rockers of any type or dealing with studs this is one of the best tools I have ever run across to remove studs.

Also, since the install is 22 lb-ft, I used the same tool (different collet, part # GC500-8) to re-install the studs into the Dart heads
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