97MysticZ

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Hey guys, I have been doing a little bit of research and I am contemplating on getting the MS3 cam. The only thing that I'm wondering about is the idle. I want a cam with a nice healthy lope that sounds GOOD. I love the specs on the MS3, but since the lowest that you can get is a 113 LSA, I dunno if it will lope enough for me. I have listened to some clips, but those don't give you the full idea. I've heard the Tqr V2 cam in person, and that was NOT enough lope for me. Although, that car was speed density tuned, and doesn't that tame down the cam a little?? How do you think the MS3 will idle compared to the Tqr V2??? Thanks guys.

walker94z28

I can tell you, the MS3 has an awesome lope and it pulls exteremely hard especially up top. I speak from experience when I say that its a great cam for a cam only setup.

97MysticZ

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What RPM do you shift at? And what can an LS1 handle? I don't wanna spin my car to the moon.

HottLS1Z

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Mine is on a 112 LSA just tell comp you want the TSP MS3 they have it since they grind the cam for them just say the only thing you want different is a 112. Mine sounds great and idles very choppy. And as for daily driveability its fine.

J2Pharren1

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I'm pretty sure you can get the MS4 in 111LSA now.

97MysticZ

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Cool, do you have any soundclips? Did you just buy it straight from comp? Did you pay the same price as the MS3 or more since its kinda a "custom" grind?



Yeah, but that cam is slightly bigger than the MS3. This is gonna be my daily driver.

REDWS6ROCKET

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i had the ms3 great lope and power, switched to the trex and night and day difference. i love the rex, don't believe what you read, i can drive my car any were i want to.

97MysticZ

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Steve, are you running the Trex with stock heads? How's the power down low?

HottLS1Z

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I dont have any sound clips but I could try and get some somehow just never uploaded any sounds b4 so i would have to look into it. I payed 379.99 for the camshaft I had Speed Inc order it for me since I had them do the install but I deal sirectly with Larry he is the mgr there and I told him I wanted the MS3 and I gave him the numbers but I gave him 112 LSA so he called comp said they grind for tsp so he got the valve events from them and all and had it shipped and they put it in. The car sounds great I get more compliments then I did with my 98Z that had a 4000 dollar paint job on it. Go figure. As for how the car runs on that LSA mine went 12.12 with the conveter that wont lock up and 2.73 gears on COMPLETLY STOCK suspension not even LCa or sub frames and on a street tire. I am also running the 918 cc springs Comp told speed inc those springs will be fine for the cam and I guess they would know since they ground the cam. If your interested I can see if there is a part number on the box.

ls1muscle

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Your exhaust is a factor to what your cam will sound like, the MS3 on a 113 will hit hard with true duals dumped. You need to shift this cam at 6800-7000 in order to get best results, that is one thing alot of people overlook.

HottLS1Z

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peak power is like 6400 so shift at like 6700-6800.

john3daly

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First time I ran mine at the track I shifted around 6k. Car gained almost 3mph by shifting it 200-300rpm higher thank 6k each shift. It loves it up top.

97MysticZ

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Well thats good because I happen to have true duals dumped How long will the stock bottom end last shifting at 6800? Keep in mind that it won't be taken that high very often. I go to the track MAYBE once a month and not really much street racing at all.

snake charmer

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The rods and rod bolt would be the weak link . I read 00 and before to watch out with the rod bolts up top 6500+ rpm .

97MysticZ

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Is there any way to change the rod bolts with the motor still in the car???

97MysticZ

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God, this fawker sounds GOOD. Its the best MS3 soundclip that I can find.
Soundclip

Its a Z28 with true duals and an MS3

ls1muscle

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All you would need is rod bolts.

I'm sure my stock cam would peak around 5.5k ? I shift at 6000-6200 for best results. If i shifted at 5800, shortly after my peak, I guarantee you I would turn in lousy times. Your car might not be making more power by holding the rpm's later, but you will be starting off in the next gear with alot more power, because your rpm will be higher in the next gear.

FastPacedGTO

i just happened to trip upon this thread and I'm wondering why you guys are saying you are shifting only at 6300 with a big cam like a MS3, when on my stock '05 GTO the redline/shift points are 6500. when it comes down to it, all I have is 364 cubes "243" casting heads, '01 Z06 cam grind (stock) and LS2 "specific" intake/TB stock.

from what I see, the MS3 should be shifted at 7000-7200

LS1powerhouse02

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I'm pretty sure they were talking about shifting the MS3 at around 6800?

the shifting at 6000-6200rpm statement was about shifting with stock cam......

Beasst8

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Im kinda partial to the MS4. It sounds mean as hell, can be DD if tuned right, BUT will can rev to the moon. We took it to 7200 on the dyno.