Anyone have MS4 #'s yet!? Speculation?
08-16-2006, 05:30 PM
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Anyone have MS4 #'s yet!? Speculation? Well Ive seen alot of people have purchased the new MS4 with PP Stg 1 LS6 heads(stock valves). Any dyno or track numbers with that combination, yet?
I am a week away from ordering this particular setup.
Hey you cam gurues, any speculation what this setup with a six speed, LT's, catback, cold air, and tune will make?
I am a week away from ordering this particular setup.
Hey you cam gurues, any speculation what this setup with a six speed, LT's, catback, cold air, and tune will make?
08-16-2006, 05:35 PM
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I would think youd be looking at an easy 430hp if not more, i havent had much experience with the patriot heads so i can't say for sure. But i do know with the PRC stg 1 LS6 heads ive seen that combo go 450 rwhp a couple times.
08-16-2006, 05:43 PM
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i would assume 410-420 cam only. it minimally differs from the ms3, but not enough to generate a huge difference. i think most will be let down with their cam only results when they come up ~400 rwhp.
i'm not knocking the cam, i just think everyone is overestimating it.
i'm not knocking the cam, i just think everyone is overestimating it.
08-16-2006, 05:50 PM
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The cam doesnt nessecarily produce much more peack power, but it brings the power in a lot earlier then the MS3 does. I think that was what TSP was trying to do with the MS4 since that was a common complaint about the MS3.
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Well, I got that setup and my heads got here yesterday and my Cam and gears and all that stuff left TSP today. My motor is already tore all the way down and is waiting the new cam to go in. So as soon as I get the stuff its gonna be busy busy busy. I will let anyone know my results. I will be getting a dyno tune as soon as I can get an appointment with my tuner. If anyone wants pics, PM me with an email address and i will send them to you. I know that some people really wanted pics of the heads.
08-16-2006, 07:06 PM
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Oh and I am hoping for 430+ and I will be happy. I did 340 though my flowmaster and now I have a cutout. That should be good for 15 ponies over the chokemaster. Got my fingers crossed
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448 rwhp with 2 miles on my new longblock + Stage 2.5 LS6 heads and fast 90/ls2 throttle body. New numbers coming shortly as I've put about 1600 miles on the shortblock
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08-17-2006, 12:49 PM
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The only numbers I have seen are the ones with a max effort setup..i.e, milled heads, fast 90/90 the works, and I am not sure if those numbers were SAE or not, as they weren't posted in the graph. Don't be surprised to see around the same peak hp as the MS3, hopefully, the MS4 has more in the midrange than its predecessor. There is just a lot of hype around this cam, unfortunately, sometimes things can get blown way out of proportion.
08-17-2006, 01:35 PM
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Here are my cam only results:
I've got my heads off at TEA getting ported (2.02 intake valve, stock exhaust valves) and I'm going to have them milled as well.... Hoping for 450+ rwhp conservatively.
I've got my heads off at TEA getting ported (2.02 intake valve, stock exhaust valves) and I'm going to have them milled as well.... Hoping for 450+ rwhp conservatively.
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Originally Posted by MavrikTA
Wow. These numbers are alot lower than I expected....
When my new differential shows up I'll have some track times
08-18-2006, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeyGC5
Well 2 miles on a completely brand new motor, with 23 degrees of timing and a rough tune??
When my new differential shows up I'll have some track times
When my new differential shows up I'll have some track times
Actually, thus far, yours is the best! Def. keep everyone posted regarding track times. The proof is in the puddin! 
