Cam gurus: Please pick for best street cam for 01 Z06:
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Cam gurus: Please pick for best street cam for 01 Z06:
To give an idea of what I was looking at, I was debating going with the TSP torquer v.2 & also looked at the 228R, F11 and even a G5X3 but that might be too big. I am wondering if a custom grind would be better. Hoping some of the gurus cam come up with specs for me.
The car: 01 Z06, Only mods: Vararam,Supermaxx LT system (with catted X-pipe). Not a track car, just a fun street car. Take it on trips occasionally and See's a good amount of LIE stop and go traffic.
What I am looking for: best compromise of power and driveability without being too picky on either side of the coin. I don't mind some lope and it doesnt have to be a perfect idle, but I'd still like it to be somewhat smooth and no bucking surging etc when trying to cruise at low rpm's in 6th or in traffic. Also want power and torque under the curve, not just a cam that you have to rev up to 7k to get a big number on the dyno, I definitely like to feel torque and great throteel response...but also want it to pull strong to atleast the around the point of the stock rev limiter.
Thanks!
The car: 01 Z06, Only mods: Vararam,Supermaxx LT system (with catted X-pipe). Not a track car, just a fun street car. Take it on trips occasionally and See's a good amount of LIE stop and go traffic.
What I am looking for: best compromise of power and driveability without being too picky on either side of the coin. I don't mind some lope and it doesnt have to be a perfect idle, but I'd still like it to be somewhat smooth and no bucking surging etc when trying to cruise at low rpm's in 6th or in traffic. Also want power and torque under the curve, not just a cam that you have to rev up to 7k to get a big number on the dyno, I definitely like to feel torque and great throteel response...but also want it to pull strong to atleast the around the point of the stock rev limiter.
Thanks!
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well, don't make the same mistake i did. i was worried about putting in too big a cam and i went with the ls6 2002. WAY too mild, my idle is 600 to 700, you can't even tell theres a cam in there. 550 lift, 218,204 dur, 117 lsa. opps!
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
228/232. 110+1 with your choice of lobes
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
To give an idea of what I was looking at, I was debating going with the TSP torquer v.2 & also looked at the 228R, F11 and even a G5X3 but that might be too big. I am wondering if a custom grind would be better. Hoping some of the gurus cam come up with specs for me.
The car: 01 Z06, Only mods: Vararam,Supermaxx LT system (with catted X-pipe). Not a track car, just a fun street car. Take it on trips occasionally and See's a good amount of LIE stop and go traffic.
What I am looking for: best compromise of power and driveability without being too picky on either side of the coin. I don't mind some lope and it doesnt have to be a perfect idle, but I'd still like it to be somewhat smooth and no bucking surging etc when trying to cruise at low rpm's in 6th or in traffic. Also want power and torque under the curve, not just a cam that you have to rev up to 7k to get a big number on the dyno, I definitely like to feel torque and great throteel response...but also want it to pull strong to atleast the around the point of the stock rev limiter.
Thanks!
The car: 01 Z06, Only mods: Vararam,Supermaxx LT system (with catted X-pipe). Not a track car, just a fun street car. Take it on trips occasionally and See's a good amount of LIE stop and go traffic.
What I am looking for: best compromise of power and driveability without being too picky on either side of the coin. I don't mind some lope and it doesnt have to be a perfect idle, but I'd still like it to be somewhat smooth and no bucking surging etc when trying to cruise at low rpm's in 6th or in traffic. Also want power and torque under the curve, not just a cam that you have to rev up to 7k to get a big number on the dyno, I definitely like to feel torque and great throteel response...but also want it to pull strong to atleast the around the point of the stock rev limiter.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
228/232. 110+1 with your choice of lobes
Thanks to everyone for their responses. I have been leaning heavily towards the TSP 228r or a 224/228 cam which seems to be a nice well rounded cam. I am not sure which would be better for my particular setup though...a split like a 224/228 or Predator's and Patrick's reccomended 228/232 or a straight cam like a 228/228....
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
110 lsa??? The only time I have seen that or lower is on huge cams in race cars. Won't the idle sound like a harley? lol. I always thought the lower the lsa the worse the idle. Off the shelf cams always seem to come in either 112 or 114 or even higher and the higher ones always say smooth idle while the lower ones say choppy idle. Perhaps you can elighten me about my fears on that lsa. Remember I do see alot of stop and go traffic and don't want that to be more of a PITA than it already is, lol
Thanks to everyone for their responses. I have been leaning heavily towards the TSP 228r or a 224/228 cam which seems to be a nice well rounded cam. I am not sure which would be better for my particular setup though...a split like a 224/228 or Predator's and Patrick's reccomended 228/232 or a straight cam like a 228/228....
Thanks to everyone for their responses. I have been leaning heavily towards the TSP 228r or a 224/228 cam which seems to be a nice well rounded cam. I am not sure which would be better for my particular setup though...a split like a 224/228 or Predator's and Patrick's reccomended 228/232 or a straight cam like a 228/228....
I can show you a 110LSA cam will idle better than a 114LSA cam.
228/232 110LSA has 10 degrees of overlap at .050"
237/242 114LSA MS4 cam has 11.5 degrees of overlap at .050" and will idle rougher. See, a 114LSA can idle worse than a 110LSA cam. Predator gave you sound advice on the 228/232 110LSA +1 cam. It's basically an XE-R lobed version of my 223/227 lobed LSK cam.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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But will a 228/232 on a 114 idle better than the same on the 110+1? I wish I could hear a sound clip or hear from someone who has this cam or similar...
Patrick, can you give me a comparison of how the TSP 228R on a 114 or even 112 will compare to predator's recommended 228/232 110+1 cam both in power and idle.
Thanks!
Patrick, can you give me a comparison of how the TSP 228R on a 114 or even 112 will compare to predator's recommended 228/232 110+1 cam both in power and idle.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by KB99WS6
But will a 228/232 on a 114 idle better than the same on the 110+1? I wish I could hear a sound clip or hear from someone who has this cam or similar...
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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Yes I do, I am just trying to understand. How much more power under the curve will i gain and how much worse will the idle be. Just trying to grasp what it will be like, lol.
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I am putting a Futral Motorsport F10 in a buddies Z06 with similar mods to yours the first weekend in October. It is a 228/228 cam and the lift is below .600. We are using the Comp 918 springs. I have the Futral F4 in my vette.
Alan Futral is great at cams with great power under the curve.
Alan Futral is great at cams with great power under the curve.
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One more question about predators cam recommendation. Is that still good with my stock gears? I don't plan on a gear change.
gonbad, yes I have also considered Futral cams
gonbad, yes I have also considered Futral cams
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One more question about predators cam recommendation. Is that still good with my stock gears? I don't plan on a gear change.
gonbad, yes I have also considered Futral cams
gonbad, yes I have also considered Futral cams
If yoou decide on this cam, just make sure it is degreed to assure 110+1 install.
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Originally Posted by gonbad
I am putting a Futral Motorsport F10 in a buddies Z06 with similar mods to yours the first weekend in October. It is a 228/228 cam and the lift is below .600. We are using the Comp 918 springs. I have the Futral F4 in my vette.
Alan Futral is great at cams with great power under the curve.
Alan Futral is great at cams with great power under the curve.
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I agree with Patrick. Forget the duration for idle quality It's about valve event's and testing.
We've been running 110-112 advertised duration Cams forever in A4's when everybody said they won't idle right.You can have a 110 duration Cam idle just as smooth as a 114 duration Cam
We've been running 110-112 advertised duration Cams forever in A4's when everybody said they won't idle right.You can have a 110 duration Cam idle just as smooth as a 114 duration Cam