cheater H/C combo
09-29-2006, 10:13 AM
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I've run it in the past and may go back to it in the future. Here are some details about my past build: http://guerragroup.com/CheaTR.htm
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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09-29-2006, 11:52 AM
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I have ls6 ported heads instead of AFR. I'm not as pleased as I guess I should be. The car drives like stock and has more power up top. I have 404/386rwtq but I can barely tell the difference in day to day driving. Runs hard on the highway. But then again my clutch is sticking to the floor, so I don't know what it would feel like in an all out run.
09-29-2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by RealLiveMD
If you have headers don't get it. just get a tr224 or ms3 because the valvetrain noise through the headers will give you away.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
09-29-2006, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
That's a strange statement to say as the TR224 and MS3 have just as much valvetrain noise as the CheaTR. The CheaTR is worth a solid 40 rwhp if running headers. Hard to find a cam that will give you more power with stock-like street manners. Oh, and shifting at 6100 is not using the entire potential of the CheaTR as it makes strong power to 6800 rpm. I made 433rwhp with headers and closed exhaust with it.
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10-01-2006, 01:03 PM
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If you pay attention to SCR/DCR/quench and proper tuning you should hit 400 or pretty close.
Patrick hit in the neighborhood of 430 with headers and his other bolt-ons + AFRs.
Patrick hit in the neighborhood of 430 with headers and his other bolt-ons + AFRs.
10-01-2006, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob25thTA
I used Patriot 243 ported heads and CheatR cam with stock manifolds and exhaust on my 03 vette 6 speed and pulled 374rwhp and 358 rwtq. Only other mod was Blackwing Airfilter.
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10-02-2006, 06:41 PM
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sorry to highjack but im thinking of doin a cheatr cam only with the mods in my sig..about what rwho will i be making? and im goin to be using a ss3600 too.. im just curious if this would be the best cam for a daily driver.. and i herd that this cam peaks at 6600 or higher.. wont that hurt my at shifting that high? can i advance the cam any to bring the peak power down to 6200? thanx and once again sorry for the highjack lol..
10-03-2006, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by slimcracka
sorry to highjack but im thinking of doin a cheatr cam only with the mods in my sig..about what rwho will i be making? and im goin to be using a ss3600 too.. im just curious if this would be the best cam for a daily driver.. and i herd that this cam peaks at 6600 or higher.. wont that hurt my at shifting that high? can i advance the cam any to bring the peak power down to 6200? thanx and once again sorry for the highjack lol..
10-03-2006, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob25thTA
Here is the Dyno Chart.
thows arnte very good #s for heads too. i was hopin to put down 360 threw an auto with mods in sig...hmmmm back to the drawing board..
10-04-2006, 10:28 PM
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Here is another graph I "hand" plotted comparing my LS1 dyno chart to a LS6 dynochart and My Patriot 243 ported heads and CheatR cam. Nothing much happens until after 4000 RPM but it is noticeable.