New LS based egnine runs on Water!
10-31-2006, 04:53 PM
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New LS based egnine runs on Water! Engines running on water!
I saw this on TV and if you listen they mention one of the Big Three as well as this guy modifying hummers for the Military.
I have now heard this guy is working with GM on a LS based motor. Anyone else know about this awesome technology and if he’s working with any of the Big Three?
Check this out – you wont believe it!
http://www.videopunks.com/index.php?...&video_id=1034
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I saw this on TV and if you listen they mention one of the Big Three as well as this guy modifying hummers for the Military.
I have now heard this guy is working with GM on a LS based motor. Anyone else know about this awesome technology and if he’s working with any of the Big Three?
Check this out – you wont believe it!
http://www.videopunks.com/index.php?...&video_id=1034
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10-31-2006, 09:52 PM
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I wonder if it provides the same power as Gasoline though. Hydrogen in the past has not been up to par with power as compared equally to a gasoline counterpart. If it is even within 10% I would change in a heart beat. Cheap DI water is a lot cheaper than $2.50 gallon Premium.
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Originally Posted by Divergent Lightning
I wonder if it provides the same power as Gasoline though. Hydrogen in the past has not been up to par with power as compared equally to a gasoline counterpart. If it is even within 10% I would change in a heart beat. Cheap DI water is a lot cheaper than $2.50 gallon Premium.
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10-31-2006, 10:49 PM
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well if its not up to par with gasoline right away it wouldnt suprise me. but with enough people fooling around with the technoligy Im sure they could get it there. Id buy it even if it was the same price as gasoline due to not funding the middle east. and think of the environmental bene's too.
11-01-2006, 06:22 AM
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11-01-2006, 06:35 AM
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This idea is nothing new. When you run an electric current through water it separtes the water into hydrogen and oxygen gas. 2 main ingredients often used for rocket fuel, so there is tremendous energy there. I did this for a school science project almost twenty years ago. Problem is it takes more energy in electric current to separate the water that the resulting gases can produce. The guy in the TV spot must've come up with a more effecient way to perform the electrolysis.
electrolysis is an easy enough process to see. just connect a wire to each lead on a 9 volt battery and then while separated submerge both leads in water. You will see hydrogen bubbles form on one lead and oxygen on the other, though I can't remember which is which.
electrolysis is an easy enough process to see. just connect a wire to each lead on a 9 volt battery and then while separated submerge both leads in water. You will see hydrogen bubbles form on one lead and oxygen on the other, though I can't remember which is which.
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that's what i was told. it takes more energy to seperate the oxygen and hydrogen than the energy it produces. Is there a bunch of batteries involed in this process as well? if so, the added weight would slow us down, lol.
11-01-2006, 08:42 AM
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Yeah, I would like to know more about how he separates the water. It is all good to say he is using hydrogen but it isn't a very efficient process once you take into account the cost of generating the electricity to split the water.
During lunch I have been experimenting with electrolysis and also the lye + water + aluminum reaction to get hydrogen. Of course so far it has just been to fill up balloons and then explode them with candles but it is interesting. I'm all for the hydrogen economy as soon as the hydrogen is being produced by wind, solar, wave or whatever clean source we can come up with. Hopefully this guy has more than just the idea of reacting hydrogen and oxygen.
Also, it takes more than 4oz of water worth of hydrogen to take any normal car 100 miles unless you have a way to continually separate and reform it in a sealed process.
During lunch I have been experimenting with electrolysis and also the lye + water + aluminum reaction to get hydrogen. Of course so far it has just been to fill up balloons and then explode them with candles but it is interesting. I'm all for the hydrogen economy as soon as the hydrogen is being produced by wind, solar, wave or whatever clean source we can come up with. Hopefully this guy has more than just the idea of reacting hydrogen and oxygen.
Also, it takes more than 4oz of water worth of hydrogen to take any normal car 100 miles unless you have a way to continually separate and reform it in a sealed process.
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Originally Posted by purdueranger
next thing you know we will be paying $5 a gallon for water because everyone will be using up all the water to fill their vehicles up. 
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what about distilling water in house sea water as an example? using the cheapest way (cooking gas or electric heater or sunlight or mirrors under the glass or metal pot) ?
note:it`s just an idea
using the cheapest way (cooking gas or electric heater or sunlight or mirrors under the glass or metal pot) ?note:it`s just an idea
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the process of seperating the H from the H2O is a closed loop ie it takes as much energy to pull it apart as it releases when recombined. so if the process is 100 percent efficent (never happen) there is no point to this process. its like the electric car, you charge the batterys and it runs for a few miles and everyone points to it and says "see no polution" what you do not see is the industral process to produce the batterys, the exhaust from the coal fired generating plant to produce the electricty to charge the batterys, the pile of discarded batterys when they wear out, and the fact that it takes more energy to charge the batterys for a 100 mile trip than it would take for a gas car to run those miles due to the fact that the charge discharge cycle is not all that efficent.
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PS: the fortune teller in me sees a lot of people being seperated from thier pocket books and some rich people retiring to islands in the caribian.
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PS: the fortune teller in me sees a lot of people being seperated from thier pocket books and some rich people retiring to islands in the caribian.
