Torquer V3 vs Patrick G cam (Cam Gurus please help me!)
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Torquer V3 vs Patrick G cam (Cam Gurus please help me!)
I have done lots and lots of research on here, and I would like some imput from both Patrick and some one from TSP. The set up will at first be a header intake pulley cam car, with heads and nitrous to come later. I would want the torquer on a 111 LSA. I'm willing to listen to a lot of noise (I'm driving around with open headers right now) and I have access to tuning software and some one that knows how to use it very well. I really want to feel torque throughout the entire RPM band, and would like to understand which cam is going to offer me the best trade off of low end grunt vs top end screaming, from a valve event standpoint.
At some point in the future I'll be going with some PRC stage one heads, once I have $ for a rearend. I'm also not worried about spring life of the LSK intake lobe and would want that on the patrick G cam. What are the exact specs of the Patrick G cam? 228/232? LSA?
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At some point in the future I'll be going with some PRC stage one heads, once I have $ for a rearend. I'm also not worried about spring life of the LSK intake lobe and would want that on the patrick G cam. What are the exact specs of the Patrick G cam? 228/232? LSA?
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My cam is designed for high compression applications and good flowing cylinder heads.
It's 223/227 .636/.639 LSK lobes on a 110LSA with no advance ground in. In my car, it gives me 8.73:1 dynamic compression which is ideal for me.
If you were wanting a Donkey Dick cam for cam-only now, then heads later, then I'd recommend the following:
235/243 .646/.653 110LSA +4 advance
This cam will give you the same dynamic compression as my Torque Cam, it will have comparable mid-range, and superior top end power. If I decide to stay naturally aspirated in the future, I may give this cam a try. It is totally badass!!
It's 223/227 .636/.639 LSK lobes on a 110LSA with no advance ground in. In my car, it gives me 8.73:1 dynamic compression which is ideal for me.
If you were wanting a Donkey Dick cam for cam-only now, then heads later, then I'd recommend the following:
235/243 .646/.653 110LSA +4 advance
This cam will give you the same dynamic compression as my Torque Cam, it will have comparable mid-range, and superior top end power. If I decide to stay naturally aspirated in the future, I may give this cam a try. It is totally badass!!
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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Originally Posted by My90Iroc
What is the spring life like with these LSK lobes? Or has no one put enough miles on one to really know?
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thanks for the quick reply Patrick, and every one elses input. I am aware of the decrease in spring life, but you gotta pay to play right? I was wondering if Zach or some one else from TSP would come by and comment.
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I agree with Patrick's cam suggestion, but I'd do it on a 110+2 for less exhaust bias, slightly higher peak (but still tuned for the FAST 90), and better power carry past peak. It'd still be real nice in the midrange - it'd just need a little more static compression.
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Originally Posted by ArrestMeRed99Z28
I'd be going with an LS6 intake, I don't have the funds for a FAST and some one that's not LS1/6 educated won't know it's there
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use a dual spring set up like comps #26921-16, or crane #144832-16/#144833-16 depending on what spring pressure you need between the two. pat's cam is a trq. monster, i use a similar set up on engines 224/228 but haven't gone that tight with the lsa yet, but i usually put them in on a 109 icl.
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235/243 .646/.653 110LSA +4 advance
any one have an opion on the power curve of this cam with LS6 intake, underdrive pulley and headers? 2400-6800? maybe 7K? I think I'll be getting some Katech Rod bolts before bumping my limiter.
Also is there any advance ground into the Torquer V3? I'd be ordering the 111LSA version
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any one have an opion on the power curve of this cam with LS6 intake, underdrive pulley and headers? 2400-6800? maybe 7K? I think I'll be getting some Katech Rod bolts before bumping my limiter.
Also is there any advance ground into the Torquer V3? I'd be ordering the 111LSA version
Thanks
AJ
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Actually the PRC springkit's have held up well to the LSK lobe cams, mine did 25k+ miles with my .630" lift cam and are still on the car that I sold 4 months ago. Texas Speed worked with the spring manufacturer to come up with a better suited spring for the LSK lobe cams to accommadate those who were worried by the bigger lift and more aggressive ramp rates and also to maybe add a little life to the springs.
The Torquer v.3 has been consistent with it's good results and many satisfied customers. It has a great power curve, awesome sound and is easily tuned. If you need a graph to look at let me know and I have several with different combinations, I might have one that will be close to what you've got.
I'm confident you will be completely satisfied with the cam, if you do decide you want something custom ground let me know and I can set it up for you at a great price!!! That goes for anyone else as well!!
The Torquer v.3 has been consistent with it's good results and many satisfied customers. It has a great power curve, awesome sound and is easily tuned. If you need a graph to look at let me know and I have several with different combinations, I might have one that will be close to what you've got.
I'm confident you will be completely satisfied with the cam, if you do decide you want something custom ground let me know and I can set it up for you at a great price!!! That goes for anyone else as well!!
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Hey thanks for the reply Zach. I'd love to see a budget bolt on Torquer 3 graph. I've seen Frats and was very impressed, what are the options as far as advance goes on the V3? Can i get a custom cam in your cam package?
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Originally Posted by Phil'sC5vette
Damn I would think that if texas speed posted dynos on here with all there cams, it would only sell more cams and give people a better understanding of what differant combos do
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We do that exact thing!! Have you checked the dyno section?
We also have dyno sheets readily available with different combos for customers who want to have an idea of what their car will do.