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Old 12-26-2006, 09:25 PM
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ok, i have finally found what i want...

97' corvette


-ms4 on a 110 lsa with their spring kit and push rods-
-ls2 timing chain
-tsp headers with x pipe
-loud mouth w/no cats
-tsp tune
-gasket kit
-ram clutch. master cylinder and slave
-o2 sims (do i need these if im getting it tuned???)( i have obdII here )

car already has
-ls6 intake
-pulleys
-oil pump


do i need to know anything else???
my goal is to have a nasty street car that is driven 2 nights per week.
Old 12-26-2006, 10:11 PM
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As far as the 02 sims go, if you are getting a tune, you can just have them turned off by TSP. Everything else looks good, I would just look at a set of heads. TSP is the right company to go with, good luck with everything.
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i agree get there heads too. just get one of there H/C packages good invesment.
heads will really help in your goal. also you prolly gonna need GEARS and if its an auto a STALL
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i would get Qtp or kooks headers
Old 12-27-2006, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
As far as the 02 sims go, if you are getting a tune, you can just have them turned off by TSP. Everything else looks good, I would just look at a set of heads. TSP is the right company to go with, good luck with everything.

i had a friend have his car done and they blocked the 02 sensors and it would not pass obdII, have yall heard of this??

car is manual-

and have you ever heard of the ram clutch? i have only used spec in the past

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I would call TSP and make sure that cam fits on a 110. I think it should since you have stock heads, but I would make sure.
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Originally Posted by Jefro6996
I would call TSP and make sure that cam fits on a 110. I think it should since you have stock heads, but I would make sure.
hell ive been trying to call texas speed for three days, they are always out to lunch or busy ( phone busy ) im going to try to keep calling tommarow, ive got credit card in hand ready to buy

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Does this car have to pass smog inspections? If so, the MS4 would seem a bit much.
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Does this car have to pass smog inspections? If so, the MS4 would seem a bit much.

no, its just obdII
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what will the tighter lsa do for the car 111 vs 110???
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They are both very close. The 111 will push the peak RPM up a hair and have a hair lower DCR.

Really, for a car with a stock shortblock, I think this is less than an ideal choice. The DCR is quite low. I get 7.84:1 with my version of the DCR spreadsheet. Assuming a 4 degree cam advance, the .050 IVC is at 45.5 degrees. That's going to put ideal shift point up around 7000 rpm. I would at least get heads with smaller chambers to pull up the compression. But then you may get into PtoV clearance issues and have to flycut.

Unless this is purely a track car, I'd go a couple notches smaller.
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I'd add a set of ear plugs to that list. A loudmouth with an ORYP is going to be too damn loud IMHO.

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I'd add a set of ear plugs to that list. A loudmouth with an ORYP is going to be too damn loud IMHO.

Bruce
You got a point...

Also, you don't need sims. Just get them tuned out.
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Originally Posted by Gannet
But then you may get into PtoV clearance issues and have to flycut.
I'm quite sure Jason or Zach from TSP mentioned that in other thread the 110LSA required Flycutting with stock heads .

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Originally Posted by Gannet
They are both very close. The 111 will push the peak RPM up a hair and have a hair lower DCR.

Really, for a car with a stock shortblock, I think this is less than an ideal choice. The DCR is quite low. I get 7.84:1 with my version of the DCR spreadsheet. Assuming a 4 degree cam advance, the .050 IVC is at 45.5 degrees. That's going to put ideal shift point up around 7000 rpm. I would at least get heads with smaller chambers to pull up the compression. But then you may get into PtoV clearance issues and have to flycut.

Unless this is purely a track car, I'd go a couple notches smaller.


MS4 is 111+1 From what I read from TSP

IVO 9.5 .. IVC 49.5
EVO 53.0.. EVC 9.0

So cam only LS1 it has 7.5:1 DCR .055 gasket / 67cc
and cam only LS6 it has 7.8:1 DCR .055 gasket / 64cc

If a .040 thickness headgasket clears with out valve notches the numbers will be better.
If you want badass horspower/torque #'s you'll need to get the DCR in the 8.5-8.8 range . Which will take the static compression to the 11.5:1-12.0:1 range for this particular camshaft .

It needs small chambers to fully appreciate which will require piston notching . Well worth the power gain though .

See what I mean here .. https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/539900-480rwhp-magic-stick-4-camshaft-prc-stage-2-5-ls6-fast-90-resullts.html

The compression makes a difference people. What would you run 440rwhp not having to flycut, stock range combustion chamber, not optimal compression , it bolts right together or 480+rwhp , pistons flycutt ,Heads milled , compression optimal , more work but No pain No gain. Do it once and do it right . Wheres my angle drill goshdarnit




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