Carbon fiber pushrods?
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Carbon fiber pushrods?
My friend was telling me that someone makes these for our car.Is this true and also how much just out of curiosity.I still have one arm left to give for my car.HA HA HA
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say no. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> I don't see carbon fiber being strong enough to be used for a pushrod. A lighter valvetrain is good, but let's not get to the point of Tonka performance parts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Re: Carbon fiber pushrods?
This COULD be possible but I don't think it is.
Carbon fiber is extremely durable and strong. Think about carbon fiber driveshafts, etc. However, it is extremely expensive and difficult to work with.
Carbon fiber is extremely durable and strong. Think about carbon fiber driveshafts, etc. However, it is extremely expensive and difficult to work with.
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Yes!!! I know of a place that is getting those in stock real soon! Try here...
http://www.kalecoauto.com
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http://www.kalecoauto.com
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Re: Carbon fiber pushrods?
HA ha ha ha.Thanks for the laughs fellas.I am a big fan of carbon fiber because of its strength and weight and I figured the lighter the better in that case.I guess no one makes them then huh?Nice jokes.
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Carbon fiber push rods are availible from John Perry of Eastern Performance in Exton PA, He used them in Grand Nationals back in the day with no problems, I would highly doubt if there are retrofitting ones for the LS1? But it doesen't hurt ot find out? I think we have enough valve train problems already IMHO. I would hate to miss a shift and look under my valve covers to see what would resemble a tooth pick factory.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>What if you did a mechanical over-rev? Would they splinter or shatter? That would be bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup.
<strong>What if you did a mechanical over-rev? Would they splinter or shatter? That would be bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup.
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Re: Carbon fiber pushrods?
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JPR:
<strong>Carbon fiber push rods are availible from John Perry of Eastern Performance in Exton PA, He used them in Grand Nationals back in the day with no problems, I would highly doubt if there are retrofitting ones for the LS1? But it doesen't hurt ot find out? I think we have enough valve train problems already IMHO. I would hate to miss a shift and look under my valve covers to see what would resemble a tooth pick factory.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is true but I do have an automatic. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong>Carbon fiber push rods are availible from John Perry of Eastern Performance in Exton PA, He used them in Grand Nationals back in the day with no problems, I would highly doubt if there are retrofitting ones for the LS1? But it doesen't hurt ot find out? I think we have enough valve train problems already IMHO. I would hate to miss a shift and look under my valve covers to see what would resemble a tooth pick factory.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is true but I do have an automatic. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tekhombre:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>What if you did a mechanical over-rev? Would they splinter or shatter? That would be bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Therefore your vavles would stay shut if they splintered. That'd be a rather engine frightnening experience, lol.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>What if you did a mechanical over-rev? Would they splinter or shatter? That would be bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Therefore your vavles would stay shut if they splintered. That'd be a rather engine frightnening experience, lol.
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Re: Carbon fiber pushrods?
Bwahahaha! Being an Engineer and working with many materials, I find it funny that you guys have missed the obvious here.
Wear.
Carbon fiber is strong, but it is not suitable for a friction surface that needs to withstand wear. Those pushrods rub on their end when they contact the rocker arm. 1000s of reps per minute. How long do you think an epoxy-based material would last in that situation.
How long would a carbon fiber piston last? hehe.
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Wear.
Carbon fiber is strong, but it is not suitable for a friction surface that needs to withstand wear. Those pushrods rub on their end when they contact the rocker arm. 1000s of reps per minute. How long do you think an epoxy-based material would last in that situation.
How long would a carbon fiber piston last? hehe.
Tony
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What if the pushrods had the steel ball apparatus installed on each end like ours just the shaft was replaced with carbon fiber? I think it's a bad idea anyway but just asking for kicks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tekhombre:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>What if you did a mechanical over-rev? Would they splinter or shatter? That would be bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Therefore your vavles would stay shut if they splintered. That'd be a rather engine frightnening experience, lol.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">NastyC5, CF push rods can fall apart by just floating the valves and with out any piston to valve contact. I would hate to take the heads of an LS1 off if the valves float and have to clean up the fine debris left on top of the lifters. They work on low revving applications but with low revving, you don't need them.
Tony, the CF push rods have metal contact points.
Julio.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Tekhombre:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>What if you did a mechanical over-rev? Would they splinter or shatter? That would be bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yup.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Therefore your vavles would stay shut if they splintered. That'd be a rather engine frightnening experience, lol.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">NastyC5, CF push rods can fall apart by just floating the valves and with out any piston to valve contact. I would hate to take the heads of an LS1 off if the valves float and have to clean up the fine debris left on top of the lifters. They work on low revving applications but with low revving, you don't need them.
Tony, the CF push rods have metal contact points.
Julio.