street cam with possible forced induction in the future?
04-21-2007, 02:57 PM
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street cam with possible forced induction in the future? First off let me say that i'm looking to make 400 horseroos with $3500 in parts and labor for the goal of the car...
What would be the most streetable/reliable option for this route if I plan on going forced induction in the future? I would buy everything all at once if I wasn't in school, living in an apartment complex, but thats not an option atm.
I'd like to have something meaner than stock, but keep "around" the same manners a stock engine produces. Thanks in advance!
What would be the most streetable/reliable option for this route if I plan on going forced induction in the future? I would buy everything all at once if I wasn't in school, living in an apartment complex, but thats not an option atm.
I'd like to have something meaner than stock, but keep "around" the same manners a stock engine produces. Thanks in advance!
04-21-2007, 10:04 PM
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Depends if you're talking supercharger or turbocharger.
Turbo will be a single pattern to slight reverse split (depending on exhaust configuration) in the low to mid 220s with LSA in the 115-116 range. An MTI Stealth II is an example of this.
Supercharger will be more like an 8-12 degree forward split to exhaust, but the DCR and overlap will depend of if it's a centrifical blower (Procharger) or a roots type blower (like Magnacharger). A centrifical blower will want and tolerate more overlap. A 220/228 115LSA is an example of a cam that would work well.
Keep in mind, these are all very broad generalizations and a custom cam will typically net you the best fit for your future combination as no two are alike.
Turbo will be a single pattern to slight reverse split (depending on exhaust configuration) in the low to mid 220s with LSA in the 115-116 range. An MTI Stealth II is an example of this.
Supercharger will be more like an 8-12 degree forward split to exhaust, but the DCR and overlap will depend of if it's a centrifical blower (Procharger) or a roots type blower (like Magnacharger). A centrifical blower will want and tolerate more overlap. A 220/228 115LSA is an example of a cam that would work well.
Keep in mind, these are all very broad generalizations and a custom cam will typically net you the best fit for your future combination as no two are alike.
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04-21-2007, 10:45 PM
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It will most probably be a centrifugal supercharger, being that this seems to be the best proven reliable forced induction method IMO. Right now I just want to mod the motor a little to have fun with during school, but compliment a blower in the future. I guess I need to give texas speed a call then if I am in need of a custom cam for this.
Would my stock heads be fine with a cam like this? or should I go ahead and purchase the ls6 heads?
Would my stock heads be fine with a cam like this? or should I go ahead and purchase the ls6 heads?
04-22-2007, 12:17 PM
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What else could I get with this cam, and still not go over my price goal?
04-22-2007, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
Well, it's an 02, so your lifters and oil pump should be fine, just don't go with the LSK lobes on the cam. Find some budget ported heads with comp 918 springs and a valve job. Maybe upgrade the timing chain, and pushrods. And get some longtubes. You'll also need ARP head bolts, you already have the LS6 intake manifold.
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04-22-2007, 10:33 PM
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Yes they would, and LSK lobes are a cam lobe profile from Comp Cams, VERY agressive and they won't fit with 918's, you need the 921's or equivilent for those.. just more expense.
04-23-2007, 12:12 PM
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I have a C5 and my cam is 218-228 .600 lift 116 JLSA
Makes good power, great on the street and even better when I get the procharger installed. Got the blower last week so i cant wait!
right now its 365 RWHP and 355 TQ. And thats through an A4 with unlocked converter.
LT Headers HF Cats and a Tune
Thanks to G Force!
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Makes good power, great on the street and even better when I get the procharger installed. Got the blower last week so i cant wait!
right now its 365 RWHP and 355 TQ. And thats through an A4 with unlocked converter.
LT Headers HF Cats and a Tune
Thanks to G Force!
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04-23-2007, 01:07 PM
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There are hidden costs in every project...maybe not really hidden just things people don't think about until they are in the middle of the install. You need to get gaskets, seals, fluids (oil, anti-freeze), tools, broken items like power steering pulley (occasional happening). The cost will depend on what you want also...
Custom cam $389.00 - 425.00
Heads $1200.00 - 2500.00 Assembled
Gaskets $100.00 - 300 (if using cometics)
Bolts $40.00 - 270 (if using ARP studs)
Fluids $50.00
Hardened PR $110.00
Tune $400 - 500
(optional)
oil pump $160
timing chain (dual roller) $99.00
headers $400.00 - 1200.00
Y pipe $150.00
Ex. Gaskets $23.00
Thermostat $60.00
I am sure I probably left something out besides shipping costs.
Custom cam $389.00 - 425.00
Heads $1200.00 - 2500.00 Assembled
Gaskets $100.00 - 300 (if using cometics)
Bolts $40.00 - 270 (if using ARP studs)
Fluids $50.00
Hardened PR $110.00
Tune $400 - 500
(optional)
oil pump $160
timing chain (dual roller) $99.00
headers $400.00 - 1200.00
Y pipe $150.00
Ex. Gaskets $23.00
Thermostat $60.00
I am sure I probably left something out besides shipping costs.
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skip the cam and put in a new rear end, and put some long tubes on. After you get those on, then look towards the cam, or do the cam, and blower together.
Figure out what blower you are going to actually buy, and go from there. I would pick up a set of 317 heads to lower the compression if you are using the stock bottom end, and go with a custom cam. It would be a good set up on stock cubes, and be able to run a bit more boost.
Figure out what blower you are going to actually buy, and go from there. I would pick up a set of 317 heads to lower the compression if you are using the stock bottom end, and go with a custom cam. It would be a good set up on stock cubes, and be able to run a bit more boost.
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I agree with Black01_WS6. A blower cam is going to give you a ton of power right now and you'll just have to get a totally different tune when you get your blower. Long tubes and a new rear end are very very universal mods. I'd suggest that you also replace your motor mounts with some poly ones when you do your headers, I really wish I had done this.
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04-23-2007, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ArrestMeRed99Z28
I agree with Black01_WS6. A blower cam is going to give you a ton of power right now and you'll just have to get a totally different tune when you get your blower. Long tubes and a new rear end are very very universal mods. I'd suggest that you also replace your motor mounts with some poly ones when you do your headers, I really wish I had done this.
Good Luck
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Good Luck
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