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Old 04-22-2007, 07:03 PM
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Default arp head bolts vs. gm head bolts?

because they are 4 times the price and serve the same purpose-so convince me they are better.
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They are only better if you plan on pulling your heads more than once as they are reuseable and GM ones are not. If you intend to do this as a one-shot deal, save your $$$ and get the GM ones.
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Originally Posted by Mike94ZLT1
They are only better if you plan on pulling your heads more than once as they are reuseable and GM ones are not. If you intend to do this as a one-shot deal, save your $$$ and get the GM ones.

WRONG!

When I did my first H/C swap I tried using GM bolts and while doing the torque sequence second pass one of the head bolts broke. Feel free to take your chances but I will never use the factory bolts again. Bought ARP bolts and gonna switch to studs on my new project.
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Go with ARP studs...that's what I used...

Work great and they're reuseable...

Plus, to me, it's much easier to tighten the nut on the end of the stud, rather than worry about tightening that long TTY bolt...
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Just don't use the stock bolts...you'll thank us. ARP bolts/studs are reuseable. The torquing procedure for the stock bolts is a pain in the ***. I found the arp bolts MUCH easier to get in and out b/c of the size of the head. It's slightly smaller so it gives u that tiney bit extra clearance to get them in and out much easier.
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Originally Posted by ExceSSive
WRONG!

When I did my first H/C swap I tried using GM bolts and while doing the torque sequence second pass one of the head bolts broke. Feel free to take your chances but I will never use the factory bolts again. Bought ARP bolts and gonna switch to studs on my new project.
Then you probably were doing something wrong. How many millions of LS engines are out on the road right now using stock bolts with no problems? Just because you screwed something up, doesn't make me WRONG!
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I went with ARP studs. Only complaint is that they make cleaning the deck a pain...
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I like all the reasoning.... just cause...
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Originally Posted by 98_1LE
I went with ARP studs. Only complaint is that they make cleaning the deck a pain...
I will give you that...cleaning the deck is a bit harder with them...

But, at least you don't have to clean bolt holes!!
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I always use stock bolts and never had any issues with leaky heads. I don't like the fact that ARP studs needs to be retorqued.
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i went with ARP, they are stronger, and are REUSEABLE...there's reason enough right there buddy

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Originally Posted by Mike94ZLT1
Then you probably were doing something wrong. How many millions of LS engines are out on the road right now using stock bolts with no problems? Just because you screwed something up, doesn't make me WRONG!

It is not rocket science to put bolts in you do turns of bolts in sequence. I am not the only one to break a bolt. And yes you are wrong, the GM bolts are not as good, just because that are "good enough" to get by does not make them as good as ARP. If that were true then there would be no market for the ARP's.
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I dunno, they were good enough for a 3yr/36000 mile warranty...they can't be too bad
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Originally Posted by magius231
I dunno, they were good enough for a 3yr/36000 mile warranty...they can't be too bad
If your at the stock power level, then yeah, they are good enough. The stock bolts are torque to yield. That should say enough right there.
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Originally Posted by 2001 Pewter WS6
I don't like the fact that ARP studs needs to be retorqued.
I'm assuming that you don't use loctite on them?
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Originally Posted by Marc '99T/A
I'm assuming that you don't use loctite on them?
no loctite

if your just gonna do H/C on a stock bottom end i wouldn't sweat going with stock GM stuff.
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Uhhh.... that also goes for anti-seize also, right?
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Originally Posted by erikthegoalie
i went with ARP, they are stronger, and are REUSEABLE...there's reason enough right there buddy

erik
Re-useable isn't a good arguement unless you plan on having the heads off a bunch. You can buy quite a few sets of stock bolts before coming close to the price of ARP's.
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Originally Posted by Marc '99T/A
Uhhh.... that also goes for anti-seize also, right?
correct
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Originally Posted by Xtnct00WS6
The torquing procedure for the stock bolts is a pain in the ***.
What is the procedure?



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