Most aggressive cam for my 436
04-26-2003, 02:43 AM
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Most aggressive cam for my 436 Just curious. I have a 242/242 .610/.610 114 lsa. How much bigger can I go and what would the RWHP increase be from just a cam swap?
04-26-2003, 06:58 AM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436 werent you the one who was afraid you wouldnt like that cam because it was way bigger than the one you picked? guess that idea went out the window good luck <img src="https://ls1tech.com/threads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. btw, im no expert but maybe 10-20rwhp???
04-26-2003, 06:10 PM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436 That was me. I new absolutely ZERO about cam numbers when I started this project so i didn't know diddly. I was told by many people that with a 242/242 my car is going to idle pretty rough. ARE said that it would be a nice smooth idle. ARE was right, it's just like stock after about 1 minute of warm up.
I was just trying to see how much bigger I can possibly go. This thing idles so damn smooth, I could go to a bigger cam if it's worth the RWHP I would gain.
I was just trying to see how much bigger I can possibly go. This thing idles so damn smooth, I could go to a bigger cam if it's worth the RWHP I would gain.
04-26-2003, 06:17 PM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436 That already is a pretty big cam man. Why don't you work on your tranny/converter slipping issues and take that thing to the track and see what she does first?
04-26-2003, 06:51 PM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436
That already is a pretty big cam man. Why don't you work on your tranny/converter slipping issues and take that thing to the track and see what she does first?
The reason I'm asking about the bigger cam is because I didn't expect the motor to literally idle like a factory stock LS1. SO, I could go bigger and still live with the idle if it's worth the power gains over this one.
I'm just curious because if this is a pretty big cam like you say it is, how much bigger is there?
And I'll be running it at the track a couple weeks later.
04-26-2003, 07:03 PM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436 I did the same thing, I put the same cam in my 393 that I ran in my 346, it's a 232-236 on a 112. Reading some other post, someone ran this cam in a all bore 38something, and it idled like stock. I had Wade order me the most aggresive cam that I could run in the car. I'm waiting on the cam as we speak, so I dont know what he has ordered.
Why dont you just give Wade at ARE a call, and see what he reccomends. They deal with different cams in the large cube motors all the time. I'm sure they can come up with something.
I plan to switch the cam later in the year. I might be willing to do some experimenting with the cam that you are running right now. I'd pay the shipping, if you want to send it up to Mich. I'm always curious what different cams will do. Your's, while mild in your engine, should make a little more rumble in my 393.
My guess is that you would gain at least 10-15 HP with a more aggresive cam, much more than that if you went with a solid roller. If you aren't running nitrous, a solid roller would be the way to go with your motor.
Why dont you just give Wade at ARE a call, and see what he reccomends. They deal with different cams in the large cube motors all the time. I'm sure they can come up with something.
I plan to switch the cam later in the year. I might be willing to do some experimenting with the cam that you are running right now. I'd pay the shipping, if you want to send it up to Mich. I'm always curious what different cams will do. Your's, while mild in your engine, should make a little more rumble in my 393.
My guess is that you would gain at least 10-15 HP with a more aggresive cam, much more than that if you went with a solid roller. If you aren't running nitrous, a solid roller would be the way to go with your motor.
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04-26-2003, 07:12 PM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436
I did the same thing, I put the same cam in my 393 that I ran in my 346, it's a 232-236 on a 112. Reading some other post, someone ran this cam in a all bore 38something, and it idled like stock. I had Wade order me the most aggresive cam that I could run in the car. I'm waiting on the cam as we speak, so I dont know what he has ordered.
Why dont you just give Wade at ARE a call, and see what he reccomends. They deal with different cams in the large cube motors all the time. I'm sure they can come up with something.
I plan to switch the cam later in the year. I might be willing to do some experimenting with the cam that you are running right now. I'd pay the shipping, if you want to send it up to Mich. I'm always curious what different cams will do. Your's, while mild in your engine, should make a little more rumble in my 393.
My guess is that you would gain at least 10-15 HP with a more aggresive cam, much more than that if you went with a solid roller. If you aren't running nitrous, a solid roller would be the way to go with your motor.
Why dont you just give Wade at ARE a call, and see what he reccomends. They deal with different cams in the large cube motors all the time. I'm sure they can come up with something.
I plan to switch the cam later in the year. I might be willing to do some experimenting with the cam that you are running right now. I'd pay the shipping, if you want to send it up to Mich. I'm always curious what different cams will do. Your's, while mild in your engine, should make a little more rumble in my 393.
My guess is that you would gain at least 10-15 HP with a more aggresive cam, much more than that if you went with a solid roller. If you aren't running nitrous, a solid roller would be the way to go with your motor.
Why exactly does a solid roller make more power then a hyd.?
And what RWHP gains would that give me over this cam I have?
How do they idle compared to hyd.?
Thanks for the input.
04-26-2003, 08:39 PM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436 solid roller allows you to run much more aggressive ramps on the cam giving you more power and also better idle quality. equal sized cams, one hydraulic, one solid, the solid cam should make more power and idle better. the only downside is more valvetrain noise and more maintenance. but from reading on this board, once the valve lash is dialed in you only need to tighten the valvetrain up once every 5k miles or so or every other oil change for a normal street driven car so its not too bad.
04-27-2003, 01:57 PM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436
Lyle, you will need slicks my man, forget about ET STREETS.
You should be able to pull 10.8's with ease.
You should be able to pull 10.8's with ease.
04-28-2003, 09:50 AM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436 I would talk to Wade and the guys at ARE. You dont want to risk anything warranty wise etc. Also They would know best what cam to put in there. (They did the heads etc)
Personally I would leave the cam in you have now and get your other issues figured out. If you want more rump at idle, drop your idle rpm 100rpm through LS1 edit. Dont bother switching cams...
Chris
Personally I would leave the cam in you have now and get your other issues figured out. If you want more rump at idle, drop your idle rpm 100rpm through LS1 edit. Dont bother switching cams...
Chris
04-28-2003, 12:45 PM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436
Personally I would leave the cam in you have now and get your other issues figured out. If you want more rump at idle, drop your idle rpm 100rpm through LS1 edit. Dont bother switching cams...
Chris
Chris
With what you've got, you should (imho) be in the mid 10s. Sort out whats not workign perfectly, get everything tuned and sorted... run the best you can with what you've got... THEN start swapping out working parts
Im too jealous of ppl who's cars just plain work and have 10 sec potential as they sit. I cant feel bad that in your 436 a 242/242 isnt enough yet
chris
04-29-2003, 02:55 AM
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Re: Most aggressive cam for my 436 [/quote]
This time the Chris's agree.
With what you've got, you should (imho) be in the mid 10s. Sort out whats not workign perfectly, get everything tuned and sorted... run the best you can with what you've got... THEN start swapping out working parts
Im too jealous of ppl who's cars just plain work and have 10 sec potential as they sit. I cant feel bad that in your 436 a 242/242 isnt enough yet
chris
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I hear you guys. I plan to have this thing tweaked to perfection and then down the road consider any upgrades. I'm just trying to get some knowledge now.
If a solid roller will offer better idle but considerably more power, that's for me.
Mid 10's would be unbelievable the way it is right now.
