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Old 07-27-2007, 04:09 PM
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... my setup (sig). Heard that bigger tends to suck w/ much below 4.10s so i'm wonderin' if my 3.73s will cut it?

Also, i'm lookin' for low end to mid range power, not soo much up high. Any opinions or suggestions on the grind? I got till Xmas to make my decision and do my research so plenty of time. Thanks for the help. Btw, daily driver.

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My goals are
- 400 HP if possible w/ just a cam swap
- Low to mid range power (not soo much higher cause i don't wanna F w/ my drivetrain)
- Good lobe sound (i like it to chug)
- Pretty aggressive
- Budget is around 1 grand (not including install, possibly not including tune, haven't researched that enough yet)

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well tell us a little bit more about your car.... is it a DD, how much power do you want to produce, and budget?
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will you should have no problem with M6 plus the 3,73.

for me i think of cams like TSP 228R,or LG G5X3,or some thunderracing cams.

make search around those and you will be happy
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Actually I'm VERY happy with my 230/236 right now. I bumped the compression quite a bit and unlike what I've been hearing a lot, my power down low is perfectly fine. It definitely picks up after 3-3500 but power before then is still better than it was. I still have 3.42's also.

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Depending on how aggressive you want to go I've seen great results with the G5X1 and G5X2 (both from LG Motorsports). Since the public doesn't know the actual specs on the G5X3 I can't offer my opinion on it (also I would never buy a cam where I didn't know specs - I don't care for the "secretive" bullshit).

I'm looking to run either a 228/232 112 LSA or a 236/242 112 LSA. I am leaning towards the smaller of the two due the powerband coming on sooner in the RPM range.

Keep us posted. Good luck
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Edited my post on my goals. Thanks for the help.
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Alot of guys here are running the TR 230/224 111lsa, very streetable and cam only with bolt ons with stock heads will get over 400rwhp with a good tune.
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Vengence Racing has a great selection of VRX cams. I'm finding that the tried and true 224-228 cams are still a great choice. Just like cams that have always worked in 302 Mustangs and old small block Chevy's.
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I daily drive my camaro and i have a T-rex cam in it. My car made 415 rwhp and 389 rwtq SAE. It is going to come down to personal preference
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I've heard alot about the TR 230/224, any opinions in relation to my goals w/ this cam?
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Originally Posted by Vrbas
I've heard alot about the TR 230/224, any opinions in relation to my goals w/ this cam?
- 400 HP if possible w/ just a cam swap
- Low to mid range power (not soo much higher cause i don't wanna F w/ my drivetrain)
- Good lobe sound (i like it to chug)
- Pretty aggressive
- Budget is around 1 grand (not including install, possibly not including tune, haven't researched that enough yet)

it pretty much fits all these requirments, go to ls1 sounds and look for clips of the CETA hes running this cam
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I just bought a Futral F13 yesterday...i did my research and have heard nothing but good things about this cam. It definitely has the sound you're looking for. From what i've heard, it makes really good power down low, and rediculous power in the midrange and up top! with your M6, the bolt ons you have, and the underdrive pulley you plan on getting, you will definitely be above your 400rwhp goal. Do some research on this cam (type f13 in the search box) and go to the video section and type the same thing so you can hear how it sounds. FYI i got mines on a 112(sounds better). The complete specs are 230/232 .595"/.585" 112 or 114. I think this cam is exactly what your looking for...ask some of the guys who have it...with AFR heads and full bolt-ons, some M6 guys have made very usable power in the 480rwhp range. read these links:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/580073-new-afr-f13-ported-fast-numbers.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/708263-futral-f13-torquer-2-a.html
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Originally Posted by Vrbas
I've heard alot about the TR 230/224, any opinions in relation to my goals w/ this cam?
You need a seriously crazy good flowng exhaust to take full advantage of a reverse split. I believe that cam is also likely to peak around 6300 making your shifts 6500 or so.

I would go with a 224/228 on XE-R lobes and comp 918 springs with some chromemoly pushrods (stock length), 110 LSA +4 degrees advance ground in. Replace the timing chain with an LS2 chain while you're in there, and a ported/shimmed LS6 oil pump if you're feeling nutty!

The cam would still have 6 degrees of overlap making for a nice lope that says something, but doesn't scream it!
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Originally Posted by chae
Since the public doesn't know the actual specs on the G5X3 I can't offer my opinion on it (also I would never buy a cam where I didn't know specs - I don't care for the "secretive" bullshit).
234/242 .598''/.610'' 112+4
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Originally Posted by cws T/A
234/242 .598''/.610'' 112+4
Ah, I see

Looks to be very similar to the larger of the two cams I am considering, which is a 236/242 .605"/.609" 112 LSA. Now I can finally give the to the G5X3.

Should work fine without flycutting when upgrading to aftermarket milled cylinder heads as well from what I was told about the cam spec'd for me
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Ive read were one measured the p/v clearance on a stock ls1 with a g5x3 on a 112 and it was .075 ''.
The safe zone is what .100 '' / .080 '' so take that # for that one particular engine measured .

Flycutting .100/.100 would put it very safe even with milled cylinder heads and a .040 thickness headgasket . The added compression would make the power more and the drivabilty would be similar to a smaller duration cam .
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Going through a 12bolt rearend TR230/224 111 vs TR224/224 114


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Originally Posted by deeloc1
I just bought a Futral F13 yesterday...i did my research and have heard nothing but good things about this cam. It definitely has the sound you're looking for. From what i've heard, it makes really good power down low, and rediculous power in the midrange and up top! with your M6, the bolt ons you have, and the underdrive pulley you plan on getting, you will definitely be above your 400rwhp goal. Do some research on this cam (type f13 in the search box) and go to the video section and type the same thing so you can hear how it sounds. FYI i got mines on a 112(sounds better). The complete specs are 230/232 .595"/.585" 112 or 114. I think this cam is exactly what your looking for...ask some of the guys who have it...with AFR heads and full bolt-ons, some M6 guys have made very usable power in the 480rwhp range. read these links:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=580073
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=708263
Dang dude, really appreciate all the info and the links. I'll definitely do my research on that cam.

As far as that chart goes (comparing 224 and 230), they look to be pretty close. Sure the 230 makes a little more, but if i went w/ the 230 would i risk having to expand my budget?
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Originally Posted by Vrbas
Dang dude, really appreciate all the info and the links. I'll definitely do my research on that cam.

As far as that chart goes (comparing 224 and 230), they look to be pretty close. Sure the 230 makes a little more, but if i went w/ the 230 would i risk having to expand my budget?
I was just throwing my lil .02 in there based on the cams everyone else was mentioning. I think that based on what you described...the f13 falls in that category. thought it would help with the links that I attached...didn't know you didn't want that much info...i'll keep it simple next time and just say F13...lol
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Originally Posted by deeloc1
I was just throwing my lil .02 in there based on the cams everyone else was mentioning. I think that based on what you described...the f13 falls in that category. thought it would help with the links that I attached...didn't know you didn't want that much info...i'll keep it simple next time and just say F13...lol
I wasn't being sarcastic, i really do appreciate the input. I'm still a noob when it comes to the internals of any LSx engine so i'm NEVER against people spelling it out for me.




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