franny40

has anyone installed a cheatr cam from thunder racing like they said it was designed for , example: stock manifolds and cats, i am looking in to this cam because i live here in california, any and all feedback is appreciated. thanks

93redBIRDman

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It's a good cam, BUT I still think you have to rev it up decently high to make good power. I think thunder racing says up to 6800. Honestly in Ca, go for a TR221 or TR224. That way you'll still make the same power if not more, AND not have to rev it to the moon.

franny40

thanks, the good old 224 cam is one i was thinking of also, but how is it with stock manifolds?

Formulated

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It doesn't matter what cam you have, you will always make more power with LT headers. I think the thing to realize is that with stock manifolds and cats, the gains from going more and more agressive with the cam begin to get smaller. Eventually, you just end up with a lumpy engine that doesn't make any power.

I'm in the same situation. I've been collecting bits to do a head and cam swap, and I'm debating what to do with the exhaust. I think the MAC mids with cats will get by many people looking from underneath the car. Another option is the BBK shorties. They look nice, and would probably get waived past a visual check even without the EO number. Whatever I do, I don't want to be swapping stuff back and forth every two years.

franny40

true, i really do not want to be swapping stuff out every 2 years, i will just keep researching and one day i will probably do it, i have been saying that since i bought my car, 6 years now.

Tram

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Seems I am in a similar boat to you guys..

I don't want to be changing out springs every two years..

I am thinking about running the TR224 in a 114 and some Patriot heads..

Probably gonna pick up an LS6 intake this week..

Bob25thTA

A little late but here are my numbers with Patriot ported LS6 heads and a Cheatr cam with stock intake and exhaust (Z06 titanium). In my 03 C5.

WS6NIGHTMARE

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Not too bad, do you have all the supporting bolt on's?

93redBIRDman

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Those are decent numbers considering you have stock exhaust and intake. You should reach 400rwhp with more boltons...

YankeeVert.

Do you have a M6 or A4?

WS6NIGHTMARE

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Well his stock intake is an LS6, but where he said stock intake and exhaust, I think he meant the valve size, thats why he said titanium.

Im actually thinking for that cam with heads, hes about 40 shy of where it should be *if* he has the bolt ons to go with it.

ls1aholic

he was talking about the cat back. its made of titanium on Z06s.

WS6NIGHTMARE

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IIRC so are the valves on LS6 heads. But he doesnt say that he has a Z06, just a C5.

TA1364

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I been thinking about a came too for cali. How much would a tr224 make with LTs and ls6 intake? Do you have to change push rods and valve springs?

WS6NIGHTMARE

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Valve springs are mandatory when changing a cam.

TA1364

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Damn, parts arent to bad but labor kills me. This mean someone has to pull the motor to switch that stuff right?

93redBIRDman

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Not necessarily, but my mechanic and I will when we do mine. Makes it easier for some.

About that z06, if he's already got most boltons, then yes there's something wrong there. He should be around 400rwhp...

WS6NIGHTMARE

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Ummm, no, not by any means, in fact thats retarded. It shouldn't be that bad. We have a sponsor that will install a cam with all necessary components and tune it for $1400. So thats a parts and labor price.

BigDaddyBry

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The valves on LS6 heads are not titanium.

You may be confusing this with the sodium filled and/or hollow ones that came with some LS6 heads, not all of them though.

TA1364

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Well my bad I just started looking into cams, dont no much about them yet. Who is this sponsor