Tin Indian

A friend has a relative that is selling Lubrication Engineers (LE) oil. This stuff is a little pricey. Somewhere around $6 a quart. Color is red. There appears to be 3 types: 8530 MONOLEC SBP, 8800 MONOLEC ULTRA, and 8130 MONOLEC ULTRA-BLEND

Reading the spec sheets on all 3 of these oils, I see that all of them are "made from a high-quality BLEND of synthetic and paraffinic base oils".

Below is the "Physical Characteristics-Typical" that were in the "Technical Data Bulletin" for the 8530 MONOLEC SPB oil:

SAE Grade: 5W-30
Gravilty, API: 33.1

Viscosity:
SUS @ 100F: 300.4
SUS @ 210F: 59.18
cSt @ 40C: 59.15
cSt @ 100C: 9.86

Viscosity Index, min: 145
Color: Red
Flash Point, min: 420F (216C)
Pour Point, max: -40F (-39C)
Total Base Number (TBN), ASTM D-2896: 6.2
Sulfated Ash, Mass %, ASTM D-874: 0.64

Copper Corrosion Rating, ASTM D-130: 1b

Spec Exceeded: GM 6094M and APISJ (other car manufactures specs are shown too)

Anyway, I have never heard of this stuff. Seems pricey for what appears to be a synthetic BLEND oil. Not 100% synthetic.

Any ideas on this oil?

Ron, (still using Mobile 1)

Patman

I have heard of this oil actually, and it's supposedly extremely good stuff, but very hard to locate. It's a lot like Schaeffer Oil (which is what I use) in that it's not using a fully synthetic base, but it's got such a good additive package that it should be able to handle long drain intervals with very low engine wear. The difference is in price though, as Schaeffer Oil can be had for under $3 a quart.

robertbartsch

Patman:
Did Schaeffer sell beer before they started selling oil; or maybe this product is a beer-based oil?

Where do you buy Schaeffer; is it brown or red in collor?

Why does my fully synthetic Mobil One turn black after a few heat cycles; my internal parts are NOT caked up with oil muck but the oil turns black fast; I have no overheating and this has happened to me with other cars too ...therefore, I think it is just a characteristic of synthetic oil, right?

Thanks...

Patman

Schaeffer never sold beer, they've been around since 1839 though, originally selling grease for wagon wheels! (no ****!) It's light green in color actually. There is no beer in it, but there's nothing stopping you from cracking a nice cold one after changing your oil with it!

Oil turns black for many reasons, but does not reflect it's condition. Keep in mind that in diesel engines their oil turns black almost instantly after an oil change, but the oil is still good.

JS12

So, Patman you recommend Schaeffer oil? i dont know too much about oil and i have been using Mobil 1 and i race often. in Texas should i be using 5w 30 all year round? TIA

Patman

I highly recommend Schaeffer Oil! I'm running their 10w30 Supreme 7000 blend in my car right now and have been running this oil since last September. This oil shows very good oil analysis results, and costs less than Mobil 1. You could use their 10w30 or their 5w30 all year round, both oils are extremely stable. I'm switching to their 5w30 actually, so I can stick with one viscosity all year round (last winter here was brutally cold and even though their 10w30 gave me no starting problems even at -10F, I want the better cold protection of 5w30)