duramax

what do you guys thing about the dart 225 heads.

BlackScreaminMachine

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I did a search in the Dynometer section....
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...rt#post5951104

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ht=dart&page=4 an old post but some example of the heads

No personal use here but some feedback

snketr

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I've done alot of searching also on them and the results I've seen have been far from stellar. I'd go with Patriots if you want a budget head.

greenwood

dont go cheap on the heads you will regreat it later you do get what you pay for .
patriots heads have been junk for as long as they have been for sale .
and darts take alot of work .but in the end can be good

DAVESS02

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Darts are a good value. I'd def. clean up the castings on them before installing. The chambers need smoothing with a dremel and doing the same to the ports is a good idea too.

duramax

so what heads have the best bang for the buck and wich cam should i use i want about 450 rwhp i have a ls1 with the MSD stan alone no other mods

vettenuts

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Dart heads are a good bang for the buck, have good parts installed and have potential if you want to port them or work them more in the future. They have thicker decks and a better chamber design than stock. I have been running the 205's problem free for a couple of years because at the time I bought them they were a really good buy and I used the money I saved to get a set of Morel lifters. Out of the box they will also bump your compression due to the 62cc chamber. They won't provide the same performance as a set of AFR's though. This year my budget is allowing me to upgrade so I am going to a set of AFR's and will sell the Darts.

There was an article on the head installation on an LS2 about a year ago with Dart, AFR, TFS, Livernois and Edelbrock. Did you read that article? For the price, the Darts did pretty good. They didn't produce the same as some of the other heads obviously but it wasn't that bad either.

DaveX

I bought them a few months ago for my car. I like the fact that they are ready to bolt on out of the box and can handle lift to .620, and have the smaller combustion chambers. Plus they are new castings instead of being welded and reworked. At the time I bought these, some of the modified factory heads were having problems such as the rocker studs breaking away so I wasn't going that route. And if I ever go bigger on the cubes I can do a little port work on them and have a good match. I don't have any numbers yet, but I can tell you my car feels like it is making great power in the mid range and pulling hard on up, athough I'm still shifting at 6200 for now.

Bo White

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Ive ported quite a few sets of 205s and 225s over the past year, I love em

JPH

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i with you there bo, they respond very well to port work.

MonkeyBoneSS

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I've seen DART's used on a few of projects from FUTRAL. Each one of them was VERY impressive, I'd give them a call and get their opinion !!!!

black01_WS6

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Do the Darts have thicker decks than stock? I have heard it both ways and don't know for sure.

JS

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U need to address the guides and seats,along with a port they can be one of the best heads for the money even after fixing the issues...