Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

head and cam or cam only??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-26-2007, 04:02 PM
  #1  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Ryans_pewter_ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default head and cam or cam only??

Should I go with a head and cam package or a cam only? and what does everyone recommend?? It is an 02' 6spd SS with 410 gears headers and true duals and went 7.80 in the eigth. with only a 1.80 60ft. will run better!! Want it Fast!!!
Old 11-26-2007, 04:24 PM
  #2  
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
red_ryderSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: San Jose, Ca
Posts: 237
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

If ur on a budget, its been proven that a cam only ms4,ms3 can get u to run 11s. u need the additional bolt ons and parts to go along. If u want to pump all the power u can out of stock cubes, afr heads, a medium cam, fast intake, blah blah blah. The real question is how fast do u want to go and how much u willin to spend.
Old 11-26-2007, 04:46 PM
  #3  
TECH Apprentice
 
Super28Sport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 337
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

x2. AFR heads is always a good route but it gets deep into the $$$ sometimes
Old 11-26-2007, 04:50 PM
  #4  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
mrhzk35404's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: coatesville, pa
Posts: 833
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

What are your power or time goals?
Old 11-26-2007, 04:56 PM
  #5  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (31)
 
Breathtaker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,019
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Mine is also a 6 speed with the same mods as yours and I'll go for cam only first. It's up to your budget, but anyway if you are limited on cash I'd go for a custom cam that would fit your car now and future mods, need to speak with Patrick, very helpful.
Old 11-26-2007, 10:12 PM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (7)
 
GMmexican's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 1,607
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Im in the same boat as you but im leaning towards cam only and spending the rest on a new rear end.
Old 11-26-2007, 11:09 PM
  #7  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
massls1guy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Mass
Posts: 1,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

if you have some miles on the motor you should get new lifters with the new cam. to change the lifters you need to take off the heads. if the old heads are off why not put on new heads. while the oil pump is off why not put on a new one.... etc... etc...
Old 11-26-2007, 11:13 PM
  #8  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (16)
 
bmxer8699's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: dfw
Posts: 985
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

yea^ thats what i am going to do.

just cam only for me
Old 11-27-2007, 03:28 AM
  #9  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
TXZ28LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Classified
Posts: 6,164
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

it comes all down to how much you want to spend and what you want to do! honestly, im doing a h/c setup for my car as well. i would just love to make 425-430 rwhp hopefully in my auto!
Old 11-27-2007, 08:41 AM
  #10  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Ryans_pewter_ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I have 59k miles, and I talked to TSP about there head and cam package and it sounds like a pretty good price!! Any one else have this same package? It's the magic stick cam and I think patriot heads. I'm gonna add a f.a.s.t intake and tb also.
Old 11-27-2007, 08:47 AM
  #11  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (23)
 
3rdgentug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: memphis, tennessee
Posts: 806
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

the PRC heads arewhat TSP sells w/ there cam packages
i got there stage 2.5 5.3 heads and a custom cam going in soon
they have a great deal on their packages
Old 11-27-2007, 08:56 AM
  #12  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
DANOZ28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: MPLS MN
Posts: 1,215
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

depends on how high your gonna rev. i'm not revving much past 6k so i felt the TSP budget heads were great. about $900. i should have upgraded springs to possibly patriot gold. they come with ls6. sure more expensive porting gains some cfm flow but unless your a hardcore racer how much do you need on a street car. TSP claimed my heads flow 307 cfm intake and about 215 exhaust at 600 lift. stock heads ls1 about 245 and stock ls6 heads about 270. just my 2 cents. i went too small on cam stock 2002 ls6. dont make that mistake!
Old 11-27-2007, 08:59 AM
  #13  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (21)
 
Jefro6996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Macomb, MI
Posts: 529
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I say do the tsp head and cam package with a fast 90. And get a new rear when it goes. Mine lasted 4 years with 400+rwhp and tq
Old 11-27-2007, 09:01 AM
  #14  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Ryans_pewter_ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

I think I'll go with the TSP package, what cam do you guys think I should go with? Its not an everyday driver but no race car either. Want it fast though. Thanks
Old 11-27-2007, 09:01 AM
  #15  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (2)
 
radkon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Cleveland, Oh
Posts: 810
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

It all comes down to money. If you can afford to do both right now do it. You'll reduce the amount of rework needed if you were to go with heads down the road.
Old 11-27-2007, 09:06 AM
  #16  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Ryans_pewter_ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

If I can sell my center mount exhaust and valance I'll have enough to buy it and have everything put on. Guess I'll wait til I have enough post so I can sale it here or someone ask about it.
Old 11-27-2007, 09:15 AM
  #17  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (23)
 
3rdgentug's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: memphis, tennessee
Posts: 806
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

TSP is also great w/ their customer service
they will help you with everything you need and have great advise on cam selections as well
Old 11-27-2007, 09:17 AM
  #18  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (9)
 
Ryans_pewter_ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Yeah I bought ther true duals and it was fast shipping and the guys really helped! Its an awesome easy exhaust too!! Everyone compliments it and turns heads!! Thats one reason I want a cam! speed is the other!!
Old 11-29-2007, 08:17 AM
  #19  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (21)
 
Jefro6996's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Macomb, MI
Posts: 529
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

With your 4.10 gears i say go with a larger cam. It really depends on how you want the car to drive. I dont mind the driveability of my ms4 and its on a 110lsa. It only surges below 1400rpms and it is not bad at all. But unless you want to flycut your pistons you cant do a ms4 and the stage 2 heads. Call tsp and talk to them and tell what you goals are and your budget.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:14 PM.