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Old 12-12-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Patriot stage II/III brand new or used Lingenfelter heads?
http://www.lingenfelter.com/Merchant...Category_Code=

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http://www.patriot-performance.com/w...05234&DID=1225

Ignore price, as the used Lingenfelters are about the same price as the Patriots
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lingenfelter link don't work...
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lingenfelter link don't work...
Try it now
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you can't go wrong with a brand new set of patriots. I wouldn't buy used heads as you don't know the history, and or there may be problems with the head.

Now if you wanted to get a good set of heads then look to AFR, TEA, ET et...
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The patriots come with better springs and valves...
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Originally Posted by black01_WS6
you can't go wrong with a brand new set of patriots. I wouldn't buy used heads as you don't know the history, and or there may be problems with the head.

Now if you wanted to get a good set of heads then look to AFR, TEA, ET et...
I know AFR and TEA are the ****, just can't bring myself to spend $2200+ when I can get a set of LS6 ported that will come pretty close to AFR's numbers for about a $1200
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What valves come in the stage 3 Patriots?
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What valves come in the stage 3 Patriots?
Patriot springs for .650 lift. I have comp 921's that I can put on either head.
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The patriots come with better springs and valves...
yeah, my brother just e-mailed me and almost **** himself saying "If the Patriots are stage II or better GET THEM"
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What valves? (not valvesprings)
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Originally Posted by El_Diablo
What valves? (not valvesprings)
HAHAHAHA I can't read. My bad.

We use a new GM raw 035 casting.
Precision welded combustion chambers.
Heat treated to OEM specs.
5 axis CNC machined.
Hand detailed and assembled.
21-4N Stainless Valves
Bronze Guides
Patriot Gold .650" Dual Springs
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Even though a valve will fit into a cylinder doesnt mean its the best application. Normally stage 3 heads will have like 2.08 valves. I do believe you can fit them on a stock ls1 bottom end but it can adversly effect cylinder fill.
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Just tell Patriot you want a Stage II with 2.02 I and 1.57 E valves.
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Talk to Gunnar at Patriot. At this price point, you can't beat the new Patriots with top of the line valve train components in terms of bang for the buck.

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Just tell Patriot you want a Stage II with 2.02 I and 1.57 E valves.
Hey, I tried to get a 427 LSX built for me, but my bank account had a seizure, so I have to do something to stay above you in HP!
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Originally Posted by Steve Bryant
Talk to Gunnar at Patriot. At this price point, you can't beat the new Patriots with top of the line valve train components in terms of bang for the buck.

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That is pretty much what I am hearing. Even a guy that used to own a shop locally told me that Patriot heads are a hell of a lot better then they were in the "drops a valve" days.
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Patriot gets my vote. I got my LS6 SII's in the mail this past weekend... can't wait drop them in.
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Originally Posted by FCar2000TA
Hey, I tried to get a 427 LSX built for me, but my bank account had a seizure, so I have to do something to stay above you in HP!
Any Stage II head with the big *** cam you have will out power my Stage I-IIish Bo White heads and my torquey 226° 230° 109° LSA cam.
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I think the overall vote goes to Patriot
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im considering some patriots also!! im curious if anybody has tried there stage 2 5.3 heads
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