LOnSLO

iTrader: (15)

Does ARE use the Darton sleeves? Just curious on the difference between the two.

Nine Ball

iTrader: (38)

Darton is just a brand name. They make "dry" and "wet" sleeve types. The wet ones are the high dollar ones that replace the entire cylinder bore area in the block and interlock. ARE can do either setup, but not at the same price. MTI only uses dry type sleeves.

Tony

LOnSLO

iTrader: (15)

Thanks Tony, that clears it up a little.

10.5 Dave

iTrader: (5)

Wet sleeves are much better.

SMOKINV8

iTrader: (6)

What makes them better? I assume it's a lesser likelihood of dropping a sleeve? Or does it actually have better cooling, due to having the coolant run through the iron sleeve?

Or is there reasons beyond this?

MTI

Both methods have their advantages & disadvantages. We chose the dry sleeve method and we install our sleeves the exact same way the dry sleeves are installed in the C5R blocks. If it's good enough for a GM race block, it's good enough for us.

10.5 Dave

iTrader: (5)

Granted I'm not an engine builder,and have no experience with MTI.I just have read many posts about people having problems dropping sleeves with the dry sleeves.I have'nt seen this with the wet sleeves.By all means educate me if I'm wrong.

Visceral

iTrader: (1)

Both ARE adn MTI are both using a very similar process now with very similar sleeves. Both are dry sleeves and in both cases the blocks are put in an oven and the sleeves are frozen. then the sleeves are inserted. This process is relatively new for MTI, I think ARE has been doing it for awhile. Neither have been dropping sleeves with this process (per both the vendors and their customers on here).

I used MTI for mine
MTI has done very very well by me.

Chris

ss rally red

iTrader: (8)

O.K. Ryan what are you up to now??

highgmc

I have no problems with my resleeved mti.

hugger427

iTrader: (9)

I went with MTI ...great people to work with. If you order from MTI you will work with Wayne or Steve, both are excellent. I worked with Wayne and he is on top of his game, get to the point, top notch follow-up kinda guy.

robertbartsch

Lingenfeter is the only sponsor of this board to develop the SDarton wet sleeve....as of today, however, they have not shipped a single block....

..there are non-sponsors who have been using the Darton wets for a long time, however. See the other posts - here./..

93Polo

iTrader: (5)

Not wanting to start the flame war but MTI has dropped at least one sleeve.
https://ls1tech.com/threads/showflat...art=1&vc=1

Pro Stock John

iTrader: (34)

ARE does not use wet sleeve Darton stuff Dave, they use the dry sleeve stuff.

CHRISPY

I think ARE uses a custom sleeve designed with Darton.

robertbartsch

Thunder Racing ------>
sells the Darton wet sleeves but i'm not sure if they do install/machine work...

Spinmonster

Depends on how long you want to wait for your motor to be delivered......some people have had nightmares with trucking and motors dropping to the floor....I would give MTI a call.

10.5 Dave

iTrader: (5)

John you're right about the sleeves.I have talked with the guys at ARE since this topic started 2 months ago.Barry,Wade have confirmed they are using a ARE designed custom dry-sleeve on my build-up.I should have edited my post but it got buried and I forgot. Wish you guys had a foot in mouth smiley.