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alright, here's what i'm going with in my 02 SS M6...MS4 on 111 LSA, TFS 215s, Vengeance ported FAST 90 and TB, HS 1.7 adjustable roller rockers, stock lifters, TSP chromemoly pushrods, ram clutch, 410s, 42# SVO injectors, arp rod bolts, planning on dynotech tune (fort wayne indiana), solid motor mounts, mufflex y-pipe w flowmaster collector into a 4" e-cutout...you get the idea. i already have all bolt-ons except EWP.

1) does anybody see any obvious or potential problems that i am overlooking?
2) will the stock lifters be okay for the high rpms that the MS4 likes?
3) guesses on rwhp?!?!
4) street manners??? i know it depends mainly on tune...
5) should i get EWP when i get the money?

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High RPMs and a stock shortblock (even with ARP rod bolts) is not a good idea..
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yeah, but it's gonna have to work until i can build the motor...also car is not a DD
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yeah the ms4 like to be spun to 7k and the stock bearings dont like that at all. I daily drove my ms4 head and cam SS and it only lasted 4 months with me driving it kinda hard. but you should make 450-475 on that setup. yeah get the electric water pump. And while you have the heads off I would def. go to some caddy lifters, they are cheap.
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Originally Posted by 99mongooSS
yeah the ms4 like to be spun to 7k and the stock bearings dont like that at all. I daily drove my ms4 head and cam SS and it only lasted 4 months with me driving it kinda hard. but you should make 450-475 on that setup. yeah get the electric water pump. And while you have the heads off I would def. go to some caddy lifters, they are cheap.

Yea, my buddy did the same thing and he spun a bearing ~3 months later..
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shifting at what 7??? is 6,500-6,600 safe?
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yeah well even though it did I love my MS4 so its going back in with forged pistons and hbeams. going for that 500rwhp N/A 347
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i'm guessing you're talking about rod bearings, right? can i replace them now so i don't have to worry about it later or is it not that simple? the motor is out of the car in my garage anyway...
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Originally Posted by Gun5
shifting at what 7??? is 6,500-6,600 safe?
not on stock bearings for long. lol. Ill be spinning mine to 7k again when its back together.
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Originally Posted by jshelton2006
i'm guessing you're talking about rod bearings, right? can i replace them now so i don't have to worry about it later or is it not that simple? the motor is out of the car in my garage anyway...
if your going to do that I would just pull the whole motor now and do an overhaul. but yes Im talking about rod bearings...itll probably do damage to all of them but just my rod bearing went.
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well the motor is already out of the car anyway...are rod bearings just the weak point???
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i would way that and the rod bolts, which you have already addressed.
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