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Old 03-12-2008, 09:53 PM
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(yes its a noob question) Well I purchased my 2nd f body a 98 t/a and I cannot seem to get the car over 175 degrees is that a bad thing? I know its always good to keep them cool but most of the time it will barely go above 160. Just dont want to break anything any help would be appreciated.

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Are the fans comming on?
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yes the fans work and the heater works fine
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Also do you know if the past owner put a lower thermo in it?
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no i dont know if the last owner put a lower thermo but i still figured it would get over 175 idleing for 45 minutes even with a 160 thermo
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Maybe the previous owner installed a low-temp thermostat or had the fans programmed to come on earlier. I think the main problem with the engine running cooler than expected would be incomplete combustion.
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Yeah it should, but the fans do not come on at that tempurature stock. so i'd say there has been somthing added/tuned. Just my .02 im sure somone will have somthing else to add.
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Originally Posted by PSU 98
Maybe the previous owner installed a low-temp thermostat or had the fans programmed to come on earlier. I think the main problem with the engine running cooler than expected would be incomplete combustion.
Please correct me if im wrong, but isn't incomplete combustion a side affect of an engine running too cool? Im not saying your wrong, just tryn to learn too!
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if i was getting incomplete combustion i would be losing power and gas mileage correct? Also if i didnt want to have the fans tuned to come on later if i replaced the thermostat with a 190 instead of a 160 would it help at all?
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It might be a good place to start. However if its not the problem, you would be bangn' your head against the wall and wasting time and money at the same time.
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Originally Posted by 00_transam_vert
Please correct me if im wrong, but isn't incomplete combustion a side affect of an engine running too cool? Im not saying your wrong, just tryn to learn too!
thats my problem if you read the 1st post
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Originally Posted by 00_transam_vert
Please correct me if im wrong, but isn't incomplete combustion a side affect of an engine running too cool?
Um, isn't that what I said? Maybe "improper" combustion is more accurate. A "too cold" engine is likely going to be running lean. Lean is not good for engine life.
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haha, well we never stop learning, and no matter what there's allways somone that knows a little more! Apon re-reading your first post, as long as you don't get the car too hot, there are little to no serious side-effects of running it at the temps you've stated.
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Originally Posted by PSU 98
Um, isn't that what I said? Maybe "improper" combustion is more accurate. A "too cold" engine is likely going to be running lean. Lean is not good for engine life.

yes deffinantly, but 170 isn't cold. I means its not 195+, but its far from cold.
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98 do you have any suggestions ? should i just replace the thermo with a 190 and hope it gets a little hotter or check the a/f ratio? also the it sounds like the fuel pump may be having a problem you know how it sounds when it starts up well its doing that sound while idleing it will run for about 10-15 minutes than it will do it again then idle for 10-15 minutes than do it again etc....
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175* might be hot if you're sticking your tongue in it, but compared to a stock LS1engine that idles just south of 210* it's running considerably colder.
If the PO is someone you know and/or are friendly with, you can ask about the mods and that might give you some idea of where to start. Installing a new 'stat isn't too expensive, just a bit of a PITA. I'm certainly no expert so I'm sure someone else here with more experience will step in and educate us all
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thanks for the suggestions hoping someone will read this that has had this problem before
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I never thought that there was anything wrong with 160-175 water temp
That would make me alot more comfortable than my stock temp at a little over 210
right now Im thinking of going to a SLP 160* Thermo
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well it just has me concerned been told the car could be running too lean, fans just comoing on too early etc... my heater blows pretty hot so i dont know
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I still dont understand how low water temp could cause it to run lean
If the water is colder than the engine is colder and colder air contains more Oxygen



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