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Old 04-03-2008, 03:09 PM
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OK, we are starting with a 6.0 iron block, I have been told these blocks have a 9.230 deck height. I am going to have the block decked 0.010 so my deck height will be 9.220. I am going to run a stock stroke, 4.005 bore, a 6.3" rod, and a piston for a 402 stroker w/ a compression height of 1.105 and a 12cc dish. So the run down is this

9.220 Deck

1.811" (3.622 stroke x 0.5)
6.300" rod
1.105" Piston Comp Height

This would put me in the hole 0.004
With the 12cc dish, 0.030 gasket and 55cc combustion chambers I will have right at 11.1 to 1 compression ratio. With a 72cc chamber I would have 9.2 to 1 compression ratio.

This would be a dual purpose engine, I want to run it with the high comp ratio and a little nitrous till I can get the money up in a year or so for a blower, which them I would stick a really good thick deck head on there with a 72cc chamber.

Thoughts, comments, suggestions???
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Assuming a 4.060 head gasket bore diameter.

55cc


72cc


Looking at your intended use, this sounds like a nice universal configuration to fit both requirements. I would opt for a little more SCR for the N/A application but that would affect your future plans.

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Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
Assuming a 4.060 head gasket bore diameter.

55cc


72cc
Thanks alot man!!!

Anyone else have any input on the setup?
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Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
Assuming a 4.060 head gasket bore diameter.

55cc


72cc


Looking at your intended use, this sounds like a nice universal configuration to fit both requirements. I would opt for a little more SCR for the N/A application but that would affect your future plans.

Would you care to stick in my cam info to check my DCR. Also change the Combustion Chamber size to 52cc.

Advertised Specs Int-294 Exh-306
Dur. @ 0.050 Int-239 Exh-251
Lift w/1.8rr Int-0.604 Exh-0.570
LSA - 106

Could you pelase check it installed at 105 and 107 ICL. I tried to get that program you are using, it looks great. I just can't get it to work with Vista

Thanks alot
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Originally Posted by Eric Hawkins
Would you care to stick in my cam info to check my DCR. Also change the Combustion Chamber size to 52cc.

Advertised Specs Int-294 Exh-306
Dur. @ 0.050 Int-239 Exh-251
Lift w/1.8rr Int-0.604 Exh-0.570
LSA - 106

Could you pelase check it installed at 105 and 107 ICL. I tried to get that program you are using, it looks great. I just can't get it to work with Vista

Thanks alot
What brand cam is that and what lobes does it use? Do you know the IVC @ .006 for one of the ICL identified above?

To run PT programs in Vista, see the following link: http://www.performancetrends.com/faq...sta_Compatible
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Originally Posted by Eric Hawkins
Would you care to stick in my cam info to check my DCR. Also change the Combustion Chamber size to 52cc.

Advertised Specs Int-294 Exh-306
Dur. @ 0.050 Int-239 Exh-251
Lift w/1.8rr Int-0.604 Exh-0.570
LSA - 106

Could you pelase check it installed at 105 and 107 ICL. I tried to get that program you are using, it looks great. I just can't get it to work with Vista

Thanks alot
I'm not a huge fan of using DCR for anything other than a sublime performance indicator, so take it for what it's worth. I figured IVC based on the information provided and came up with the following:

106+1: 72
106-1: 74

Here's the calculations with 52cc chambers and the two IVC events above:

52cc, 106 + 1


52cc, 106 - 1
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how much of a difference would it make if you set it to
402ci like he wanted in his post.
i see that in all of the spec sheets the motor cubes is set for 365.

just wondering if a change in cubes will change the specs.
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Originally Posted by PappyDan
how much of a difference would it make if you set it to
402ci like he wanted in his post.
i see that in all of the spec sheets the motor cubes is set for 365.

just wondering if a change in cubes will change the specs.
He states he is using a stock stroke with a 402 piston. This is why he is using a 6.300" rod. If I put a 4" stroke crank in the calculation it would increase the compression but it would also put the piston .185" above the deck.
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ok i missed that, i thought he was building up a 402.
could you do one for me please.
i don't have much info but i bet you know where to find it.

im turning my 4.8 in to a 5.7 with a stock crank, rods, and pistons.
i will be useing my 4.8 heads with a comp 216/220 cam lift is 525/532 lsa 114
i have a set of 7.4 push rods, and 918 springs.
just wondering what my compression could be and if i may have a clearence issue
from the 4.8 heads small cc chamber.
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Originally Posted by PappyDan
ok i missed that, i thought he was building up a 402.
could you do one for me please.
i don't have much info but i bet you know where to find it.

im turning my 4.8 in to a 5.7 with a stock crank, rods, and pistons.
i will be useing my 4.8 heads with a comp 216/220 cam lift is 525/532 lsa 114
i have a set of 7.4 push rods, and 918 springs.
just wondering what my compression could be and if i may have a clearence issue
from the 4.8 heads small cc chamber.
I need to know cam advance or intake center line to calculate DCR.

Here's SCR with the above specs:
Assumptions:
Stock GM 5.7 MLS head gasket
Piston .007 above the deck
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Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
What brand cam is that and what lobes does it use? Do you know the IVC @ .006 for one of the ICL identified above?

To run PT programs in Vista, see the following link: http://www.performancetrends.com/faq...sta_Compatible
Thanks for the link, as soon as I get home tonight I will give it a shot. The cam is a GM Grand Am Cup, I do not know the other info.

Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
I'm not a huge fan of using DCR for anything other than a sublime performance indicator, so take it for what it's worth. I figured IVC based on the information provided and came up with the following:

106+1: 72
106-1: 74

Here's the calculations with 52cc chambers and the two IVC events above:

52cc, 106 + 1


52cc, 106 - 1
Thanks alot, I do not put much thought in to the DCR but I was doing some math last night and kept coming up with crazy numbers so I just wanted to see what the program said.

I think this will be a great combo for what I want and the long rod with that cam should be a screamer.

Again thanks!!!
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Hyd. Hyd. 1300 to 6300 54-414-11 XR269HR
in 269 out 273
@ .050 in 216 @220
lift with a 1.7 rocker .525 .532
LSA 114°
this is the only info i can find with comp cams on this cam.
i think the inteak center line is 112 @ .050


Originally Posted by 405HP_Z06
I need to know cam advance or intake center line to calculate DCR.

Here's SCR with the above specs:
Assumptions:
Stock GM 5.7 MLS head gasket
Piston .007 above the deck




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