F-Body Lover

which one you like? and which one got the rough idle ? I know both got 112 LSA but I found few video's in youtube some Torquer v.2 cam's got rough idle more than 233/239 and the other's are 233/239 are more rough than Torquer v.2 we want to order the package from TSP with springs and pushrods but we want to know which one got the roughest idle the car is 2001 Camaro M6 got full bolt ons and now we need good cam with rough/choppy idle and we cant decide which one to go with the Torquer v.2 or 233/239,help

F-Body Lover

Oh I forgot to mention that we will order LS2 chain too and oil pump but TSP got two oil pumps one is stock LS6 and the other ported LS6 which one is better?

gold98Z28

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ug...... buying a cam for sound just erks me. but anyway, it has more to do with the tune how hard it thumps, they will sound almost identical, just depends on how high of a idle rpm and how much timing is in it at idle. if you go open loop at idle then you can fudge the fueling around too, but it all has to jive to make off idle and return to idle smooth.............

F-Body Lover

hehehe some ppl love the sounds and the others love the performance,So I think we will go with 233/239 with 112 LSA and we will dyno tune it

RyderTA

iTrader: (3)

It's all in the tune. Here's a vid of my car on the first startup after the cam, my car is nowhere near this now, it's still got a nice lope to it though.

http://s63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...t=843da2c9.flv

therobman

iTrader: (39)

heres my torquer 2 on a 112 i love it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3E2vuUl0gdQ

bad6as

iTrader: (17)

lope comes from overlap. the more over lap the more lope.
the 232/234 112 has 9*
the 233/239 112 has 12*

you need to think about the power band you want. fyi my 232/234 has 13* overlap
mine is a 232/234 110+3 and im shifting at 6500. you need to know what you want from the cam if you dont care and just want sound..get the bigger

F-Body Lover

To be honest I want him to get the perfect cam for his set up I think I will let him go with Torquer 2 and play with the timing in idle to get the choppy idle he wants

F-Body Lover

we will go woth Torquer 2 its sounds very nice

F-Body Lover

ok last question do we need LS6 oil pump ported and LS2 timing chain? we will go with TSP cam+918 springs and pushrod package the cam will be torquer v.2

RyderTA

iTrader: (3)

The LS2 timing chain is basically the same stock chain, just new so yes get it since your already in there. I would personally go with the ported LS6 pump, can't go wrong with a better flowing oil system eh?

F-Body Lover

Thnx man we will take the package and timing chain with ported LS6 pump thnx again

redz_02

iTrader: (4)

More than likely one lopes more because the idle is dropped = better tune.

delsold

iTrader: (7)

haha i dont mean to ask such a dumb question...but is there two of you always typing? You always refer to yourself as we
haha

sorry.

F-Body Lover

No it's just me typing and when I refer to "we" because Im not the owner of the 2001 Camaro M6 I got 1992 Camaro Z28 25th anniversary and Im helping him but I cant decide which cam should he get because Im the one who gonna order the package for him

GuitsBoy

iTrader: (4)

Its all been stated before, but just to reinforce the correct info:

The 233/239 will lope a bit harder all else equal. The idle speed, spark, and fueling will affect the lope.

The T2 will have a little more down low and the 233/239 will have a bit more up top. You can tweak either of these grinds by playing with LSA and advance.

'02 WS6

iTrader: (73)

Torquer 2 113+0 in mine, idle pegged @ 900 and love it!! Probably not as choppy as you like though, but it's no slouch down low, and has outperformed 233/239's and MS3's up top!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2dDvDgXDMo

LS1-NAVY

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^^omg cant wait till i get my torquer v2

LS1C5Vette

iTrader: (11)

You will see MAYBE a 8 rwhp between the 2. BTW the 233/239 kicks ***

john563

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you could go custom..Mine is a 232/238 6xx 6xx 111+2lsa I like it..It has enough low end grunt and mid range/top end pulls like a freight train