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Old 08-09-2003, 08:49 PM
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Okay I am going with Stage II heads, LT headers with cats and am not sure which cam I can use to pass emissions. I am looking for about 400RWHP when all is said and done. Car will be dyno tuned. So my question is: Which cams will pass (for sure), and what profiles may be in the grey? I have a M6 car BTW.
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PM 93PONY....hes got a 226/224 that will pass CA emissions..
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400RW should be no problem with a very mild cam.
The 220/220 112LSA (smogable) cam I just did put down 394RW un-tuned with stock heads.
Cats will cost you some HP though.
The largest cam I'd make to pass smog is the 226/224 mentioned above.

You know....cam swaps on these cars aren't hard at all. Hell, you don't even need new gaskets. If it were me I'd put in a fairly large cam (non-smogable) & keep the stocker for smog time. Same with the cats. Just swap everything out every 2 years. A weekends work & the difference could easily be 50RWHP from cats & a smogable cam to off-road exhaust & a nasty little grind. JMO
But.... with that 226/224 & off-road exhaust busting 400RW will come easy with stock heads.
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Default Re: Biggest emission friendly cam?

I also vote the 220/220 maybe even on a 114 lsa to pass for sure.
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Okay how big before it gets grey?
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Pass emissions?

In part that depends on the specific emissions test you need to pass.

Sniffer test ~224/224 114 LSA should pass with a good tune

OBD-II scan - if they aren't sniffing the car, and the PCM is tuned and set up correctly...big cams can pass the computer test part. If course a 240/250 that smells like gas will probably cause the emissions folks to start asking questions and really checking stuff.

Visual - if the cats are moved you fail, if they really check it closely...

Dyno roller testing is different still

What specifically do you need to pass?
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I do the Indiana test. Sniffer, visual, and run it on the dyno.
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I would say anything bigger than a 224/224 is grey area if it passes. You would be resorting to every trick in the book to pass, maybe slipping the tester a $100 bill . . .
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Chris ARE 360 got his 230/230 to pass the sniffer!
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If you have Edit available and can play with the idle and timing, you can get bigger cams to pass. A 224/224 115 can be made to pass with normal tuning and a 220/220 114 is a pretty safe bet, even for A4's.

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This is what I wondered - it you can fix your A/F ratio to run lean and retard the timing when it gets "sniffed"........then resort back to "regular" tuning?
But I don't have access to any tuning equipment, so basically a 224/224 114 LSA should pass. hmmm.
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You know....cam swaps on these cars aren't hard at all. Hell, you don't even need new gaskets. If it were me I'd put in a fairly large cam (non-smogable) & keep the stocker for smog time. Same with the cats. Just swap everything out every 2 years. A weekends work & the difference could easily be 50RWHP from cats & a smogable cam to off-road exhaust & a nasty little grind. JMO

That's exactly what I plan on doing.
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After I do the heads/cam/headers - tune. If I still have that itch, I'm gonna scratch it with a 125 shot of giggle gas - that should make up for my "little" emissions cam!!
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Default Re: Biggest emission friendly cam?

My 226/226 114 has failed the Illinois test twice. Cant pass on HC and going broke on shops telling me "no problem" we can get it to pass.

Car is grounded
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Fast99Z, have you tried mixing your own fuel for emissions day: 2 parts gasoline, 1 part methanol! That will get your HCs down!
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Default Re: Biggest emission friendly cam?

. . . You know....cam swaps on these cars aren't hard at all. Hell, you don't even need new gaskets. If it were me I'd put in a fairly large cam (non-smogable) & keep the stocker for smog time. Same with the cats. Just swap everything out every 2 years. A weekends work & the difference could easily be 50RWHP from cats & a smogable cam to off-road exhaust & a nasty little grind. . .
If you have Edit available and can play with the idle and timing, you can get bigger cams to pass.

I fully ditto the above 2 quotes
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Default Re: Biggest emission friendly cam?

Dragon, that is a great idea, but I know a lot of the guys with HUGE cams have cars that run rough as hell. I want mine to run fine as a daily driver if need be, although I have thought this over. I will probably go with the 224 for now and after it tests in 2 years, new better cams will be available at that time.
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FAST99Z what does your combo include? I would like to see what #s your making with that cam.



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