ZL1Killa

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ok guys help me out here, my car only has 33k miles so I'm not going to worry about swapping to a new oil pump, not unless going to an ls6 would really help, if it would I might as well right? LOL.

I already have the 3 arm puller, and pushrod length checker

Just wanting to make sure I have all the parts, here I go:

dowels to hold lifters
Coolant
Anti seize
Loctite
RTV
Oil
Oil Filter
Gas (LOL, hey its eventually gotta get cranked up right?)
Pushrods - 7.425 inch
CAmshaft (custom grind ) - keeping secret for now
LS6 oil pump

Cam installation gasket kit ---
-comes with 2 x water pump gaskets, timing cover gasket
timing cover seal, valve cover gaskets, new crank bolt (harmonic balancer)

new timing chain
air injection gaskets (yes I need them... the ones currently on my car are worn out)
front gasket
front gasket seal

if I left anything out please, please toss it up here.

connexion2005

iTrader: (49)

Be sure you have dowels to hold the lifters up in place once you pullout the cam.

motown2

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lots of beer...

OUTLAWZ RACING

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And thread sealer for the rocker arms helps keep oil out the valves.

sidewayz28

iTrader: (24)

youll be fine with your stock oil pump as long as u get good psi.
Im still on my stocker, im swapping cams again soon and ill probably re use my stock oil pump again

sidewayz28

iTrader: (24)

YEP!!!

sidewayz28

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dude, just deleter your AIR...

eallanboggs

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You'll fnd that if you take your time and use reasonable care the water pump and timing cover gaskets will be OK. Examine them closely, but I think you will see they are still pliable. They're better quality than the GenI. This doesn't apply to head gaskets of course. Always change the crank seal on the timing cover and take note of the direction the lip faces when you install the seal. The angle of the lip on the seal should be installed such that it prevents out from escaping from the pan not allow it to escape. I don't change the rocker cover "O" rings unless they pop out on their own during the cam swap. They can swell up and pop out of the machined groove when you remove them from the heads, but sometimes you get lucky and they stay put. You should have all of these items in your tool box whether you use them or not just in case they are needed. I like to clean everything nearly as well as is done in a hospital and you'll be well served to do the same. No, the front cover seal and gasket are NOT the same thing. It would help if you can figure out the difference. You don't need the thread sealer on the intake rocker bolt threads UNLESS you have CNCed heads which I assume you do not.

ZL1Killa

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3 posts back to back... c'mon man

and the air is staying, gotta be legal as people are picky and i have cats

bczee

iTrader: (12)

I always say, if you have it that far down.. put the LS6 pump in.. cheap insurance and peace of mind.

sidewayz28

iTrader: (24)

LOL okay. Good luck on your cam swap bud

transwiz

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If your going to go into the motor,do the oil pump while your in there.Don't take any chances. MELLING 295 or LS6 oil pump.
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ZL1Killa

iTrader: (17)

ok, will go ls6.

SO:

dowels to hold lifters
ls6 oil pump

sweet guys, thanks!

and yes my engine internals are stock, stock heads, no milling or anything


Cam installation gasket kit ---
timing cover gasket*****
timing cover seal*****

?????***** these items... are they the same as the front cover gasket and front cover seal (yes i know silly question... but I hate all the damn different names for things)

ZL1Killa

iTrader: (17)

will buying a new (just new) timing chain for my ls1 from GM Parts direct work fine?

and buying a LS6 oil pump will work on my car fine correct?

Z'mnypit

iTrader: (58)

As for your question about the front cover seal and front cover gasket. They are not the same. The Gasket is the gasket for the front cover. The seal is the small black seal that fits around the crank pulley. Kinda like a mini rear main seal.

Yes, use this part # for the chain.. 12586482

Yep, the oil pump will work with no issues. I dont really think there is a difference between the two pumps.

ZL1Killa

iTrader: (17)

Hey Z'mnypit!!

I called thunder racing and they said that their cam swap gasket kit included the timing gaskets and when i asked the guy if they were the same as the front cover seal and front cover gasket that they said they were the same.... weird... gonna call again and see what they say


also, do i need any new O-rings or anything else with the oil pump?


ok got that situated, bought new front seal/gasket. IT IS NOT the same.

thanks man!

hpjunky98

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Great informative thread. Lots of good info in one palce. I'm getting mentaly prepared for a cam swap in the near future... I can relate to your confusion man. Just want to do it right the first time!

Demon Of Dreams

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no springs, seats or seals?

Shawn MacAnanny

iTrader: (12)

Ok the LS6, LS1, and LS2 pumps are all the same pump. Go with an aftermarket melling or something if you are going to swap the pump. they will send you two o-rings the black one goes with the LS1 pick up tube, the green is for the truck pick up.

The Crane tool is nice for removing the springs, and you will want one of those powerful pen magnets to help you remove the valve retainer locks. You will also need an air fitting to preassurize the cylinder to hold the valves up or just use the TDC method. Also get new Viton valve seals for the stems.

EndlessSummer85

That's what I was gonna say No springs???? spring puller???? Extra locks, Those little guys can be a pain when ya drop em.... I can't think of anything else off the top of my head, Ohh yea makesure you buy a longer crank bolt, I used the ARP, that thing is worth it's weight in gold...