I'm a ricer, need a different boost cam
07-16-2008, 04:57 PM
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I'm a ricer, need a different boost cam Let me start off by saying that i'm a ricer, i know. i've got a mild 226/226 .585/.585 114 cam on my car right now. i'm in the process of building a turbo kit so a boost friendly cam I will still need. I know this is a very good cam for boost, but I honestly want a better sounding idle. I know that sounds ricey but for me a total package for a car is to go fast (which it will still do with another cam), look good, and sound good. It just completes the package to have a nice lopey idle with my v8, and I really wish to have that. My current cam has a very mild sounding idle and it just doesn't excite me like a sports car should. Are there any "boost friendly" cams in particular that would fit what i'm trying to accomplish? To me, spending a bit more money to complete the full package of what I want my car to perform/sound like is worth it.
I know that overlap typically isn't good for boost and that is what makes the lopey idle for the most part. I am by no means an expert on this subject though and any/all input would be great.
It is a stock internal'd ls1 with slightly decked/ported 853 heads, beehive springs, upgraded pushrods, and a 70mm turbo. The motor WILL be built to lower compression and forged internals once the turbo kit is built and functional with the bugs worked out.
Driveability is also not an issue. It will be a built th350 weekend warrior, I wouldn't mind it being rough
Thanks!
Mike
I know that overlap typically isn't good for boost and that is what makes the lopey idle for the most part. I am by no means an expert on this subject though and any/all input would be great.
It is a stock internal'd ls1 with slightly decked/ported 853 heads, beehive springs, upgraded pushrods, and a 70mm turbo. The motor WILL be built to lower compression and forged internals once the turbo kit is built and functional with the bugs worked out.
Driveability is also not an issue. It will be a built th350 weekend warrior, I wouldn't mind it being rough
Thanks!
Mike
Last edited by MDoe8; 07-16-2008 at 05:04 PM.
07-16-2008, 08:06 PM
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You're too funny 
Rice won't get much help here. Although, by your post, you're not a ricer....well maybe a little bit.
That's not a bad cam either; especially for street. If you want a bit more lope, then swap the stock 1.7:1 rockers to 1.8's. This will essentially increase your valve lift to .619. Just make sure that your springs have enough travel so that you don't get coil bind. After that, get rid of the cats, & or get some exhaust cut outs.
Anyway, if you're gonna build a motor, I'd let the engine builder decide what is best for your turbo set-up long before worrying about a lopey idle. That cam of yours really is not a bad cam @ all. Like I said, get rid of the cats & you'll make some noise. Also, a true dual exhaust w/ bullet style mufflers would help. Good-luck
Rice won't get much help here. Although, by your post, you're not a ricer....well maybe a little bit.That's not a bad cam either; especially for street. If you want a bit more lope, then swap the stock 1.7:1 rockers to 1.8's. This will essentially increase your valve lift to .619. Just make sure that your springs have enough travel so that you don't get coil bind. After that, get rid of the cats, & or get some exhaust cut outs.
Anyway, if you're gonna build a motor, I'd let the engine builder decide what is best for your turbo set-up long before worrying about a lopey idle. That cam of yours really is not a bad cam @ all. Like I said, get rid of the cats & you'll make some noise. Also, a true dual exhaust w/ bullet style mufflers would help. Good-luck
07-16-2008, 08:21 PM
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Boost friendly and lope are on opposite ends of the spectrum. Something like you have right now would be fine, maybe a similar cam on a 112lsa for a little more lope. Or turn the idle down to 600 for a nice chop.
07-17-2008, 01:03 AM
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lol. I'll be putting the motor together myself. I drove the car around for a while all motor with this setup. It made 410rwhp and definitely didn't have cats lol. Even open headers it didn't lope that much. Perhaps just lowering the idle will do it. Like I said, Sound is part of the package....without a lopey idle, it doesn't sound like a true muscle car 
(albeit an rx7 muscle car haha)
(albeit an rx7 muscle car haha)You're too funny Rice won't get much help here. Although, by your post, you're not a ricer....well maybe a little bit.
That's not a bad cam either; especially for street. If you want a bit more lope, then swap the stock 1.7:1 rockers to 1.8's. This will essentially increase your valve lift to .619. Just make sure that your springs have enough travel so that you don't get coil bind. After that, get rid of the cats, & or get some exhaust cut outs.
Anyway, if you're gonna build a motor, I'd let the engine builder decide what is best for your turbo set-up long before worrying about a lopey idle. That cam of yours really is not a bad cam @ all. Like I said, get rid of the cats & you'll make some noise. Also, a true dual exhaust w/ bullet style mufflers would help. Good-luck
Rice won't get much help here. Although, by your post, you're not a ricer....well maybe a little bit.That's not a bad cam either; especially for street. If you want a bit more lope, then swap the stock 1.7:1 rockers to 1.8's. This will essentially increase your valve lift to .619. Just make sure that your springs have enough travel so that you don't get coil bind. After that, get rid of the cats, & or get some exhaust cut outs.
Anyway, if you're gonna build a motor, I'd let the engine builder decide what is best for your turbo set-up long before worrying about a lopey idle. That cam of yours really is not a bad cam @ all. Like I said, get rid of the cats & you'll make some noise. Also, a true dual exhaust w/ bullet style mufflers would help. Good-luck
07-17-2008, 03:44 PM
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thanks silverss!
I don't know much in detail about the specs of cams (except the general stuff that eveyone knows). I just like getting recommendations and then building it from there I am not a tuner at all, I wonder if the tune good lower the idle enough to give me that chop with my cam?
I don't know much in detail about the specs of cams (except the general stuff that eveyone knows). I just like getting recommendations and then building it from there
I am not a tuner at all, I wonder if the tune good lower the idle enough to give me that chop with my cam? Trending Topics
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somthing like a 224/230 on a 114 might be a lil more lopy and not have any overlap.....but its gonna raise your powerband up some.....IMO id keep the cam you have...
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you cant be serious You're too funny Rice won't get much help here. Although, by your post, you're not a ricer....well maybe a little bit.
That's not a bad cam either; especially for street. If you want a bit more lope, then swap the stock 1.7:1 rockers to 1.8's. This will essentially increase your valve lift to .619. Just make sure that your springs have enough travel so that you don't get coil bind. After that, get rid of the cats, & or get some exhaust cut outs.
Anyway, if you're gonna build a motor, I'd let the engine builder decide what is best for your turbo set-up long before worrying about a lopey idle. That cam of yours really is not a bad cam @ all. Like I said, get rid of the cats & you'll make some noise. Also, a true dual exhaust w/ bullet style mufflers would help. Good-luck
Rice won't get much help here. Although, by your post, you're not a ricer....well maybe a little bit.That's not a bad cam either; especially for street. If you want a bit more lope, then swap the stock 1.7:1 rockers to 1.8's. This will essentially increase your valve lift to .619. Just make sure that your springs have enough travel so that you don't get coil bind. After that, get rid of the cats, & or get some exhaust cut outs.
Anyway, if you're gonna build a motor, I'd let the engine builder decide what is best for your turbo set-up long before worrying about a lopey idle. That cam of yours really is not a bad cam @ all. Like I said, get rid of the cats & you'll make some noise. Also, a true dual exhaust w/ bullet style mufflers would help. Good-luck
07-17-2008, 07:01 PM
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You could step up to a 228/228 on a 114 LSA. That cam will have some definately lope to it but still work very well for a boost cam. I have heard that cam on a few procharged cars and it gives it a noticeable lope but nothing crazy.
07-19-2008, 05:31 AM
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Let me start off by saying that i'm a ricer, i know. i've got a mild 226/226 .585/.585 114 cam on my car right now. i'm in the process of building a turbo kit so a boost friendly cam I will still need. I know this is a very good cam for boost, but I honestly want a better sounding idle. I know that sounds ricey but for me a total package for a car is to go fast (which it will still do with another cam), look good, and sound good. It just completes the package to have a nice lopey idle with my v8, and I really wish to have that. My current cam has a very mild sounding idle and it just doesn't excite me like a sports car should. Are there any "boost friendly" cams in particular that would fit what i'm trying to accomplish? To me, spending a bit more money to complete the full package of what I want my car to perform/sound like is worth it.
I know that overlap typically isn't good for boost and that is what makes the lopey idle for the most part. I am by no means an expert on this subject though and any/all input would be great.
It is a stock internal'd ls1 with slightly decked/ported 853 heads, beehive springs, upgraded pushrods, and a 70mm turbo. The motor WILL be built to lower compression and forged internals once the turbo kit is built and functional with the bugs worked out.
Driveability is also not an issue. It will be a built th350 weekend warrior, I wouldn't mind it being rough
Thanks!
Mike
I know that overlap typically isn't good for boost and that is what makes the lopey idle for the most part. I am by no means an expert on this subject though and any/all input would be great.
It is a stock internal'd ls1 with slightly decked/ported 853 heads, beehive springs, upgraded pushrods, and a 70mm turbo. The motor WILL be built to lower compression and forged internals once the turbo kit is built and functional with the bugs worked out.
Driveability is also not an issue. It will be a built th350 weekend warrior, I wouldn't mind it being rough
Thanks!
Mike
