Gordon0652

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Like it says.
Right now i am a bolt-on car, just a full exhaust, and a lid with a few free mods. The car is an A4. (see sig)
I would like to install a cam with springs and push rods, but i have no idea about Cams.
The most i am going to do to my car is full bolt-ons and a cam. thats where i am going to stop.
After the cam install i will be looking into an LS6 intake or a used FAST90, under drive pulley and thats about it.
The car is only driven about 50 miles a week, and i take it to the track. I am hoping to keep the factory stall since some people have, but i am not afrade to intstall a Yank.
Can someone help me out with a cam choice, and why the can you chose for me? Would i need an aftermarket stall?

Thank you for the help in advance.

BriancWS6

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Go ahead and factor in a higher stall with any cam worth while. I would go with something in the upper 220s at smallest, and mid-upper 230s at biggest since this is your first cam experience.

I ran a 225/225 with a 3500 stall in my previous a4 car, and wanted more stall and more cam. It went high 11s without having all the bolt-ons.

180ls1

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well the stall plays a huge factor in your cam choice. But the 228r is a bitchin cam.

Gordon0652

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High 11s? at full weight? with pump gas? Thats damn fast for a bolt-on cam car.
Why shouldnt i go bigger, first cam experience...?

95 Z28

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Unless you go with a super ***** cam, 11s in a cam only a4 car with a stall should be no sweat.

I like Futral cams. I did TONS of research prior to getting my cam and I really like Futrals stuff. I run an F14 HighLift in my M6 car. I like it. It makes good power, pulls hard on motor and spray, and drives nice even with stock gears. If I could recommend a cam for you I'd recommend the F13/F13HL. Do a search and you'll find that there's a lot of guys running that cam and they all love it, put down damn nice numbers, and run impressive times. I think the F13 is a 230/232 with like .585ish lift, or you can get the HighLift version, which will supposedly net up to 10 more whp. If you don't drive the car every day nonstop then I'd opt for the HL version, that's what I did.

Gordon0652

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Did a quick search on the F13HL, seems like a nice cam. What LSA would i look into?

FMS Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/232" .642"/.612" 112LSA - aggressive profile with a 2500-6800 RPM range, rough idle

FMS Custom Grind Camshaft - 230"/232" .642"/.612" 114LSA - aggressive profile with a 2500-6800 RPM range, rough idle

Also that seems like a lot of lift for factory heads...? i will be looking into the PRC springs.

TA1364

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Not a DD and you take it to the track I would suggest a yank pt4000 converter.

BriancWS6

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Yep.

You SHOULD go bigger than I did on that setup. The F13 that your looking at, is a nice cam, and has always made some good numbers. The specs you listed are for the "high lift" version though, which will make the springs wear out faster. How often you want to change them, is up to you.

The reason I said cause it was your first cam is because since you don't really know what to expect hp gains and drive-ability wise, it's easy to get carried away.

Example: one of my buddies is new to LS1s, and said he had his cam picked out. It was the HPE Mega Death, 240s duration cam. I told him it wasn't gonna be the right choice for what I knew he wanted to do with the car. Since he has talked to me, and ridden in a buddies 232/236 cammed car, he has decided on a 224/224 for a good bump in power with GREAT power under the curve, which is a great choice.

Had he already had a cam, he would have an idea of how much bigger he could go/tolerate. But since he hadn't, he relied on me to steer him in the right direction.

TXZ28LS1

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make sure to match your stall/cam together.

Gordon0652

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I am thinking of going with a Yank 3500 or 4000. With the F13HL my idel should be around 950rpm.
Those stall speeds should work?

SlayerMaro

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Are you planning on spraying? If not, I hear the yank pt4000 will hit hard off the line. Personally I got a 3600 stall with my 228/230 because I plan to spray soon.

Gordon0652

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I will not be spraying.
The farthest that i am going is full-bolt ons, cam, stall, and a rear end & trans when they break.
It was my grandfathers car and i want to keep it mostly original...

Gordon0652

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Thats a good thing, right?

dyls1

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Very good thing

Gordon0652

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Okay,
Back to the Cam choice - Sounds like a F13HL could be a great cam for me with the PRC spring kit.
Just the idea of running mid to high 11s with a cam and stall is amazing!
Anyone want to suggest another cam for me?

s346k

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i suggest consulting patrick g or predatorz for cams. they are both very knowledgeable regarding cams, valve events, and setups. i think it's something like $25, but i would be the best money you ever spent during the cam swap.

Kingc8r

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^ Best advice, that's what I'm doing. Then the cam is spec'd to our goals and mods

SlayerMaro

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x3 on Patrick G or Predator-Z. They have speced tons of custom cams for people depending on their goals. Considering the benefits, it's well worth the 25 bucks. Everyone loves the cams these guys spec.

Then you can just order the custom cam from a vendor, and you're ready to go!

95 Z28

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I'd go with the 112. My F14HL on a 112 doesn't even lope that hard at all. If you're kind of iffy about running that much lift, then don't, just get the normal lift version, it's still a great cam. I run the springs good to .660 on my car and they're fine though. Oh, and don't expect to have to rev the car to 6800-7000 RPMs like they advertise either. My F14HL tops off at like 64-65, rev limiter at 6700.

Gordon0652

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Patrick G said the F13HL is an excellent cam, try the 111LSA.
I am still keeping my options open and i just did a little research on the MS4, sounds like its not for a DD but my car is only driven 50 miles a week.
Opinions on the MS4 for my set up...?