Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Help Me Choose A Cam Polluter, Ms4, Ms3...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-20-2008, 07:05 AM
  #1  
9 Second Club
Thread Starter
iTrader: (10)
 
assassinz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 227
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Arrow Help Me Choose A Cam Polluter, Ms4, Ms3...

I have done a lot of research and have been reading alot about the cams that are offed for the ls1 stock longblock but I just need your advice for my specific situation so I am finally doing my cam swap and will be ordering today or tomorrow I have a 98 stock longblock with all the bolt ons headers, exhaust, 85mm BBK intake, yank 2800 stall, 3.73 gears and want to know which one of this cams will be the best or if you have any other cam suggestions le me know here is what i am looking for:

I do not want to flycut
I want a big cam
that will love spray
have a lot of power off the bottle
I do not care about gas mileage or being street friendly I want the most power this is not my daily driver


so please le me know which cam will be the best to make the best power on and off the bottle thanks in advance
Old 08-20-2008, 07:33 AM
  #2  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
TXZ28LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Classified
Posts: 6,164
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

your definitely gonna need a bigger stall than that 2800. i would definitely looking into getting a beefed up tranny before u spray your car. stock trannies + N20= NO BUENO!! dont know much on the polluter as it is a new cam. the MS3 i know loves the spray.
Old 08-20-2008, 08:35 AM
  #3  
LS1TECH Sponsor
iTrader: (20)
 
Joey@Tick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Mount Airy, NC
Posts: 1,751
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

The Polluter looks like it'd cater to your needs perfectly - it loves the spray as well.
Old 08-20-2008, 09:20 AM
  #4  
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (4)
 
Jason 98 TA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Texas!
Posts: 4,229
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Look in the dyno section before you make a decision. It's easy for someone to claim a camshaft is great, but we test hundreds of camshaft combinations in a effort to offer the best possible performing camshafts for our customers.

We test camshafts on the engine dyno looking for little power gains here & there in a effort to make sure we provide proven performers that out dyno the competition!

For example we're getting back on the dyno later this week. We have 5 different camshafts with just different exhaust lobes on them! The purpose it so track down what exhaust lobe works best for heads cam & cam only applications! We're also testing several new lobes that were built specifically for TSP.

Look for dyno results very soon!!!
__________________
Jason
Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
Old 08-21-2008, 11:51 AM
  #5  
Teching In
 
SlowSS_2001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: North Wilkesboro, NC
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yea man.. it's a hard decision.. lol
*Cough* POLLUTER *Cough*

I LOVE it.. and it LOVES the spray..
What more can you as for from a 2001 SS with a factory LS6 intake and some beat up OLD SLP headers with a welded patch over one of the tubes??
Old 08-21-2008, 11:56 AM
  #6  
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (5)
 
Sales2@Texas-speed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Texas!
Posts: 5,053
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by SlowSS_2001
Yea man.. it's a hard decision.. lol
*Cough* POLLUTER *Cough*

I LOVE it.. and it LOVES the spray..
What more can you as for from a 2001 SS with a factory LS6 intake and some beat up OLD SLP headers with a welded patch over one of the tubes??
Out of curiosity, how much power did your car pick up at the tires and which size shot?
__________________


Largest Stocking Distributor of LS-x Engines / CHECK OUT OUR NEW WEBSITE!

COMP - FAST - PACESETTER - DIAMOND RACING - EAGLE SPECIALTY PRODUCTS - CALLIES - COMETIC GASKETS
RAM CLUTCHES - MOSER ENGINEERING - KOOK'S HEADERS - ARP - GM BOLTS AND GASKETS - MSD - NGK
POWERBOND - ASP - AND MORE!
Old 08-21-2008, 12:30 PM
  #7  
Race your car!
iTrader: (50)
 
JL ws-6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 15,420
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts

Default

One thing that I have seen with alot of cams, that I personally don't agree with due to some factual information, is the lift that people are running with stock heads, even with the aftermarket intakes.

The heads, depending on which ones your car came with (year, engine model, etc) only flow between 260 and what 270ish? They also do that at about 500 to 520 lift, depending on the head.

To go pushing the valve a ton past that point is aloot of wear and tear that are only going to get you minimal power gains, and rdramaticially decrease valvetrain life.

I'd personally like to see some of the big cams out there, MS4's polluters, trex, vindicators, hell for the sake of saying a 244/250 on a 110 lsa, but have them all cut for a max of 550 lift no more. Get the valve open as quick as reasonably possible to the 480 to 530 lift area, peak it at 550 and leave it open as long as possible and shut it quickly.

I'd like to see what kind of power this would make, and compare that to the bigger lift with the same duration/lsa/overlap/timing as the higher lift lobes, then after 5000, 10000, 15000, 20000 miles pull the valvesprings on both the big lift and the low lift same timing/duration specs and see which ones are in better/worse shape. Obviously slamming valves open and closed is ahrd on springs too, but not to the level of opening and closing them the same but with more actual movement would be.



Is there any one special cam that is gonna work for the thread starter's car? Not specificially, being a 98 it definately needs a oil pump and rod bolts when the cam goes in, but I think anything with a the duration in the 240's is gonna work, and being a stock motor, it's only gonna take about 200 hp of nitrous before the reliability of the motor is going to become a major concern. That being said cut the cam for n/a performance, and spray it the stock shortblock won't take enough nitrous to have a nitrous grind camshaft be of any benefit.
Old 08-21-2008, 12:41 PM
  #8  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
troopercar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Sarasota, FL
Posts: 633
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Polluter? Come on guys, the cam may prove to work fine but the guy who named it should be smacked on his bare ***** with a plastic spoon.
Old 08-21-2008, 12:44 PM
  #9  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (4)
 
s346k's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: johnson co.
Posts: 3,433
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

find yourself a 4000 vig lock up stall and the trex.

end of thread.
Old 08-21-2008, 06:10 PM
  #10  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (2)
 
silverbandit0996's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: IN A VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER!
Posts: 564
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

yea man. tsp's cams have been proven to provide horsepower for years. your takin a chance with the polluter, i think.
Old 08-21-2008, 06:36 PM
  #11  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
phoenix1987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 421
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by troopercar
Polluter? Come on guys, the cam may prove to work fine but the guy who named it should be smacked on his bare ***** with a plastic spoon.





Polluter?
The name sounds like its going to make your car run like **** and puff smoke.
Old 08-21-2008, 06:46 PM
  #12  
12 Second Club
iTrader: (6)
 
gsxr1k2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: A Mile High
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Matt at TSP set me up with my MS3 and spray. Love it everyday!
Old 08-21-2008, 07:20 PM
  #13  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
 
thunderstruck507's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Northwest AR
Posts: 8,357
Received 21 Likes on 17 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by troopercar
Polluter? Come on guys, the cam may prove to work fine but the guy who named it should be smacked on his bare ***** with a plastic spoon.
agreed, but spoon? how about a sledgehammer

pretty crappy marketing IMO and just adds to the negative stereotype hotrodders get

not to mention it makes me think of a crappy throw together car that smells like a gas station with a leak cause it runs like ****
Old 08-21-2008, 07:22 PM
  #14  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (24)
 
sidewayz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: seattle
Posts: 3,548
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

you should try the god zilla cam... no better cam for a cam only car

oh and have you guys heard of the new pterodactyl cam thats coming soon?! itll make you car a screamer flying down the high way
Old 08-21-2008, 09:05 PM
  #15  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
 
Silver-Dollar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Summerville, SC
Posts: 1,155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed
Out of curiosity, how much power did your car pick up at the tires and which size shot?
could be his. https://ls1tech.com/forums/new-products-showcase/969951-tick-performance-s-newest-lsx-camshaft-polluter.html
Old 08-21-2008, 09:13 PM
  #16  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (48)
 
firefighting1101's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 963
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

go for the polluter! that is the most ridiculous cam ever...lol
Old 08-21-2008, 09:15 PM
  #17  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (6)
 
firefighter813x's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 863
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default truck

Did you sell your truck? I see Lorenz driving it to work. I thought maybe he bought it back??? Is it running any better?
Old 08-22-2008, 12:40 AM
  #18  
11 Second Club
 
blown03mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

go for the polluter
Old 08-22-2008, 01:20 AM
  #19  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (24)
 
sidewayz28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: seattle
Posts: 3,548
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by assassinz28
I have done a lot of research and have been reading alot about the cams that are offed for the ls1 stock longblock but I just need your advice for my specific situation so I am finally doing my cam swap and will be ordering today or tomorrow I have a 98 stock longblock with all the bolt ons headers, exhaust, 85mm BBK intake, yank 2800 stall, 3.73 gears and want to know which one of this cams will be the best or if you have any other cam suggestions le me know here is what i am looking for:

I do not want to flycut
I want a big cam
that will love spray
have a lot of power off the bottle
I do not care about gas mileage or being street friendly I want the most power this is not my daily driver


so please le me know which cam will be the best to make the best power on and off the bottle thanks in advance
im in the same boat as you bud... nastiest cam you can squeeze in with out fly cutting and likes nitrous!
Old 08-22-2008, 07:45 AM
  #20  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
TXZ28LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Classified
Posts: 6,164
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

$hit go with the TREX or VENGEANCE VINDICATOR!!


Quick Reply: Help Me Choose A Cam Polluter, Ms4, Ms3...



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:58 AM.