Are XE-R/XFI/LSK lobes daily driver streetable, or not?
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Are XE-R/XFI/LSK lobes daily driver streetable, or not?
These newer lobe designs have been out awhile now and when Patrick G first designed his LSK lobed "torque cam", he said that it would have good longevity on the street. Lately I have been hearing otherwise, so I'd like to know which lobe designs are streetable for a daily driver. Streetable to me is 30-40K mile valvespring life. I drive my car 20K a year, so I'd rather not be swapping out valvesprings yearly. I have a TR 224 cam on a 112 right now and I think I could design a cam with a newer lobe design that would give me more low end power and sacrifice nothing up top. If any of these lobes would work in a street car, I'd love to know.
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Some people I know have gotten 40k miles out of LSK lobes with quality dual springs. That may be the exception and not the norm. I've had good success with springs running LSK lobes, but some of the LSK lobed cams have not had the best hardening process and they've gone soft.
TSP has put out more LSK lobed cams than anyone with their popular Torquer V3 and MS4 cams. Pretty big number of users out there. For what it's worth, streetability is more of a function of overlap than anything else. Keep the overlap mild and the street manners will be mild (for the most part).
TSP has put out more LSK lobed cams than anyone with their popular Torquer V3 and MS4 cams. Pretty big number of users out there. For what it's worth, streetability is more of a function of overlap than anything else. Keep the overlap mild and the street manners will be mild (for the most part).
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
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I just wanted to make sure that A) spring life (pressure loss/breakage) would not be an issue and B) that the more aggressive lobes wouldn't beat the seats out of the head. One of the cam designs I had came up with to boost low end power without killing top end was an LSK 220/220 on a 110 LSA retarded 1 degree. That gives an 8.69 DCR with 62 CC heads (which I plan on getting). It seems like that cam would perform better than the TR 224 I have now.
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I have DD'd XE-R for 8 years with no issues and XFI for 1.5 still no issues, if done right, they will last long enough, there is always a fluke though, but if I wanted 100K reliance, I would just stay stock. Can't beat the Shelbys, M5s, Z06s, Porches etc being stock though. 0>160, they are mine
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a quick search for your question would have lead you to this thread on LSK lobes for daily drivers... Pretty good information.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...781&highlight=
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Comp 918s and PAC 1218s and the awesome 1518s.
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2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
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So 1218s WILL work with XFI? AWESOME>>
We were discussing that in my "Which 224/230 cam?" thread and coil bind has just been brought up. Glad to here they will be fine
We were discussing that in my "Which 224/230 cam?" thread and coil bind has just been brought up. Glad to here they will be fine