Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

New cam installed

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-30-2008, 07:26 PM
  #1  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
99_SS_LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South West Michigan
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default New cam installed

Over the weekend I installed my new cam spec'd by pat g. It's a 226/232 .609/.604 113+4

Driveability is great, almost stock. Huge improvement from my ASA. Alot more responsive down low, without the surging issues of the asa.

Overall I am happy with it. I do however miss the chop of the asa at idle, but the driveability makes up for it.

Next tuesday it's going on the dyno. See how she runs and see what the a/f ratio looks, depending on that maybe a re-tune (my current tune is garbage, if you're looking for a tune in the detroit metro area, I can tell you one place I would not recommend)

All and all, here's to a good upgrade!
Old 10-02-2008, 09:02 AM
  #2  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
99_SS_LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South West Michigan
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

ya'll are lame. not one response.
Old 10-02-2008, 09:25 AM
  #3  
TECH Junkie
iTrader: (5)
 
teke184's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Key West, Florida
Posts: 3,183
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

well....what did you expect?

no numbers, no times, just some simple impressions of a new cam.

i just had my Mez EWP delivered...i even installed the 160 stat in it...

but its still in the box. no numbers or impressions other than it looks sexy.

should i start a thread and expect tons of replys? NO.

anxious to see the numbers with the cam.

what did it do on the old cam..what were the old cam specs??
Old 10-02-2008, 09:26 AM
  #4  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
 
Kurtomac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Okinawa, Japan
Posts: 1,220
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

what kinda power did you make with the ASA?
congrats on the new cam
Old 10-02-2008, 02:08 PM
  #5  
11 Second Club
 
blown03mustang's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 868
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

what were the specs on the previous cam?
Old 10-02-2008, 03:20 PM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (15)
 
DarkhorSe_SS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Spurs City!!! SA, Tx
Posts: 1,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

113+4 sounds quiet tho

definitely looking too see ur numbers also.
Old 10-03-2008, 09:18 AM
  #7  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
99_SS_LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South West Michigan
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by teke184
well....what did you expect?

no numbers, no times, just some simple impressions of a new cam.

i just had my Mez EWP delivered...i even installed the 160 stat in it...

but its still in the box. no numbers or impressions other than it looks sexy.

should i start a thread and expect tons of replys? NO.

anxious to see the numbers with the cam.

what did it do on the old cam..what were the old cam specs??
I forgot that if you want alot of replys on this site, you need to come up with a topic more like "Which 224 cam should I get?" or "How much power will my 224 cam make?"

The ASA has similar specs on paper. It's a 226/232 .525/.525 110lsa. It just never did it for me other than it sounded real mean (alot meaner than it was infact).

It only made 358 rwhp with lt, cats, gmmg, and tune. Like I said, my tune was less than impressive. Full exhaust, y-pipe, and cats kill the numbers on that cam apparently. Very suspetable to power loss from a "not super high flow exhaust"

I am anxious to see the numbers as well. I'm not sure how good they'll be, as I've been having clutch fluid issues for the past month or so. Sometimes it grabs, sometimes it doesn't. I'm going to try to flush it before taking it on tuesday. I don't pay for the dyno runs, so it's not really a big deal if it doesn't make good numbers due to the clutch. It's probably getting replaced in a couple months.
Old 10-03-2008, 09:20 AM
  #8  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
99_SS_LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South West Michigan
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by DarkhorSe_SS
113+4 sounds quiet tho

definitely looking too see ur numbers also.
Yeah, it doesn't chop that had. Definitely makes up for it in driveability though. I'll try to post a vid of asa vs new idle.
Old 10-03-2008, 03:02 PM
  #9  
Launching!
iTrader: (1)
 
TRANS-DAD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: PASADENA,TX.
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 99_SS_LS1
I forgot that if you want alot of replys on this site, you need to come up with a topic more like "Which 224 cam should I get?" or "How much power will my 224 cam make?"

The ASA has similar specs on paper. It's a 226/232 .525/.525 110lsa. It just never did it for me other than it sounded real mean (alot meaner than it was infact).

It only made 358 rwhp with lt, cats, gmmg, and tune. Like I said, my tune was less than impressive. Full exhaust, y-pipe, and cats kill the numbers on that cam apparently. Very suspetable to power loss from a "not super high flow exhaust"

I am anxious to see the numbers as well. I'm not sure how good they'll be, as I've been having clutch fluid issues for the past month or so. Sometimes it grabs, sometimes it doesn't. I'm going to try to flush it before taking it on tuesday. I don't pay for the dyno runs, so it's not really a big deal if it doesn't make good numbers due to the clutch. It's probably getting replaced in a couple months.
THE REASON THERE ARE SO MANY POST ON THE 224 CAM IS THAT IT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE ONE OF THE BEST ALL AROUND (POWER WERE YOU NEED IT) CAM!!!! NOT TO SAY THAT YOUR CAM IS BAD ,IF PATRICK CHOOSE THAT GRIND FOR YOU THEN YOU PROBABLY HAVE JUST WHAT YOU WANTED!
Old 10-03-2008, 03:08 PM
  #10  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (6)
 
Johnnystock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,675
Received 38 Likes on 25 Posts

Default

lol, you might want to calm down...of course there will be million replys if you include dyno numbers and track time or a vid!!

Anyway, congrats on the new cam, and I hope your clutch issue will be resolved soon.
Hope it will satisfy your needs on the streets!
Old 10-03-2008, 06:07 PM
  #11  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
99_SS_LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South West Michigan
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by TRANS-DAD
THE REASON THERE ARE SO MANY POST ON THE 224 CAM IS THAT IT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE ONE OF THE BEST ALL AROUND (POWER WERE YOU NEED IT) CAM!!!! NOT TO SAY THAT YOUR CAM IS BAD ,IF PATRICK CHOOSE THAT GRIND FOR YOU THEN YOU PROBABLY HAVE JUST WHAT YOU WANTED!
Ha! Chill - I have no problem with the 224 cam, I was just making a point. And I am happy with my choice.

Originally Posted by Johnnystock
lol, you might want to calm down...of course there will be million replys if you include dyno numbers and track time or a vid!!

Anyway, congrats on the new cam, and I hope your clutch issue will be resolved soon.
Hope it will satisfy your needs on the streets!
Thanks. And yes dyno results here on Tuesday, and probably a short video clip too

For the record, I wasn't really bitter about no responses... It was just my way of "ttt"
Old 10-07-2008, 06:51 PM
  #12  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
99_SS_LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South West Michigan
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

New numbers are in...

388 rwhp / 370 rwtq

Very happy with the new set-up!
Old 10-07-2008, 06:55 PM
  #13  
Launching!
iTrader: (39)
 
Mikes96z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Columbus, GA
Posts: 225
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

that power under the curve feel like 450RWHP huh?
Old 10-07-2008, 06:56 PM
  #14  
On The Tree
iTrader: (5)
 
gotjuice?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: West Palm Beach
Posts: 169
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

congrats bro,i'm looking for a cam for my 99 maybe i'll go ur route
Old 10-07-2008, 08:03 PM
  #15  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
JBIRD02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Orange Park/ Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 99_SS_LS1

The ASA has similar specs on paper. It's a 226/232 .525/.525 110lsa. It just never did it for me other than it sounded real mean (alot meaner than it was infact).

It only made 358 rwhp with lt, cats, gmmg, and tune. Like I said, my tune was less than impressive. Full exhaust, y-pipe, and cats kill the numbers on that cam apparently. Very suspetable to power loss from a "not super high flow exhaust"
The ASA is 226/236
Yeah, you're right, that ASA cam definately needs a really high flowing exhaust to perform. I'm running stepped headers and 3" td's w/o cats.
Sounds like you got a pretty good setup that you're happy with. Congrats on the new power!

Last edited by JBIRD02; 10-08-2008 at 10:31 PM.
Old 10-08-2008, 04:36 PM
  #16  
TECH Apprentice
Thread Starter
iTrader: (4)
 
99_SS_LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: South West Michigan
Posts: 358
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by Mikes96z
that power under the curve feel like 450RWHP huh?
Yeah, It gained 10-25 ft-lbs from 1500-3000. There maybe more after the retune as well..


Jbird - yeah you're correct the asa is 226/236.. And yeah, I've seen your numbers on the asa and they do look great with the free flowing exhaust.

I'm thinking of going with a ported throttle body before I get it retuned, and have hopes of over 400 then... Not that it really matters, more so bragging rights because I am already happy with how it runs
Old 10-08-2008, 06:01 PM
  #17  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Sicko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Congrats on the cam...
Old 10-08-2008, 08:13 PM
  #18  
LS1 Tech Administrator
iTrader: (14)
 
Patrick G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Victoria, TX
Posts: 8,244
Likes: 0
Received 31 Likes on 27 Posts

Default

If you want the new cam to chop hard, try lowering your idle speed. By lowering it 100 rpm over where it is now, it will chop pretty hard while still giving you superb street manners. It's a simple tuners trick!
__________________

2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2018 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 Pat G tuned.
LS1,LS2,LS3,LS7,LT1 Custom Camshaft Specialist For custom camshaft help press here.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
Old 10-08-2008, 10:30 PM
  #19  
11 Second Club
 
speedsk899's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bedford, IN
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 99_SS_LS1
ya'll are lame. not one response.
What do you expect....you didn't put in an MS4.......You were smarter then that
Old 10-08-2008, 10:40 PM
  #20  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
JBIRD02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Orange Park/ Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 99_SS_LS1
Yeah, It gained 10-25 ft-lbs from 1500-3000. There maybe more after the retune as well..


Jbird - yeah you're correct the asa is 226/236.. And yeah, I've seen your numbers on the asa and they do look great with the free flowing exhaust.

I'm thinking of going with a ported throttle body before I get it retuned, and have hopes of over 400 then... Not that it really matters, more so bragging rights because I am already happy with how it runs
Thanks!
You'd be surprised what a ported tb can do, especially if its not opening up all the way (90*) as it should. I had Bo White do mine awhile back and it was a major improvement!

Originally Posted by Patrick G
If you want the new cam to chop hard, try lowering your idle speed. By lowering it 100 rpm over where it is now, it will chop pretty hard while still giving you superb street manners. It's a simple tuners trick!
Yeah, he's right. Have your tuner set your idle wherever you want it. When I got my car tuned recently @ EFI Alchemy, we played around with different idle speeds. Had it as low as 650 and it idled fine, but I didn't like it so I had him set it to 800.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:00 PM.