camaroz03

i have a 2000 SS A4 im lookin for a good Cam for my car i have bolt ons Exhaust Air Lid, MAF, Cutout, Asp Pulley
now earlier they let me now that the GM Hot Cam will not benefit me so well after all since havin a A4 so my question is whats a good Cam for my car that will give me good numbers for a daily street driver and occasionally at the track on weekends and at the same time have a mean sound to it whats the highest lift i can go with my stock headz
appreciate it guys

XFACTOR

Check out the MTI Stealth Cam and the C1 Cam-you can also get custom setups.I would say go with like a 222/222 or a 224 cam that would be a good choice as well!!

Colonel

"and at the same time have a mean sound to it"

Don't go with the Stealth if you want a mean sound. The Stealth is designed to make awesome power with an almost stock idle and drivability. It's VERY sneakily strong but it doesn't sound like you want to be sneaky.

Colonel

BTW, with stock unported heads, you won't see appreciable gains going over about .550 lift. You can go higher (it's not going to hurt power), but the heads won't be able to take advantage of the extra lift like a good set of ported heads. Bottom line, you'll be taxing the valve springs more for little gain.

camaroz03

so in other words go with C1 MTI Cam ive herd the stealth Cam idle and yeah it does sound stock but thats not what im lookin for im lookin for some sound but most important good numbers on my stcok heads ill look into that C1 but let me now about other Cams that will work well for me

someday

try the TR220/114... should be what ur looking for... medium lift, with a slight lope

gillbot

iTrader: (27)

TR230/224 but you'd need a good tuner!

Jorday

TR224 wouldn't be a bad choice. I have a 228/236 112 in my daily driven A4. Sounds pretty tough at idle through my LTs and true duals. I put up with a lot of crap as a result of having that big of a cam that most people probably wouldn't be willing to deal with. In other words, my car has been known to have some drivability problems

FACE

What kind of driveability issues are you talking about?
Also, what size converter do you have?
TIA,

Jorday

Startup problems, the occassional stall rolling up to a stop. Stumbling and stalling while warming. I have to hold the gas down a bit to get the gar to stay running whenever it first starts up, warmed up or not. I have a yank Pro thruster 4200 converter.

Jorday

BTW Mike, I didn't even realize you were on this website ever.

TAHotRada98

i dont no about the rest of these guys but i am using the crane 208/216 cam w/ a 530/530 lift. with a low duration cam (single or dual) and a good, high, moderate lift you'll be able to accomplish what your looking for. Ya the C1 MTI cam and the TR cams are awsome but seriously; If stock heads and fun driveability w/ cool sound is the issue then be practical. I like the Crane, Comp makes a great 206/212 cam thats sounds rowdy. that was my first cam. Also, i dont know why people are saying that the GM Hot Cam will not benifit you. That is one of the original ls1 h.p. cams for stock heads and no comp. tuning. The ls6 cam is great as well, my buddy uses the hot cam IN AN A$ I MIGHT ADD and it kicks a$$. i would also like to add that none of the above listed cam require comp. tuning and still deliver good power, maybe not the best in the world, but good enough to hold your own and remain a PRACTICAL daily driver. Add a minor stall, headers and cat-back and you should be just fine. Hope this helps dude.
This is just what i think though, so please no one get mad at me.

Jorday

You make some good points there. I figure with my true duals with turndowns, very large cam, and 4200 stall converter, probably 1 in 1000 people would be able to stand to drive my car on a daily basis.

TAHotRada98

this car is my only transportation, but if i had a beater to cruise as a daily driver substitute, i would definaly go w/ your setup on my TA Jorday. Kick *** man
KEEP ON RODDIN

Jorday

My car is my daily driver, I'm just nuts.


I'm looking to buy a cheap car before winter, though. I'll admit the streetability irritates me sometimes, though.

TAHotRada98

hey, how do you like your 3:23?

Cal

iTrader: (1)

I second this! TR224 114 is what you want! Any smaller and you won't know it has a cam, any bigger and you have driveabilty and emissions issues. I used to have cam bigger than Jorday's; it was fun for a while but after 2 years I had to swap it out for something smaller.

Jorday

I like the 3.23 gears in my car. I have read many times that it's not worth going any larger with a big converter like I have. I like 2100 RPM at 70 in my car. I can't believe how many people drive these cars around with a 3 speed and 3.73 gears. Obviously, I'm a person who can tolerate a loose converter/good size cam/loud exhaust on a daily basis, but not having OD would drive me nuts. Everyone has thier own set of limits as far as what they can and can't tolerate the car doing.

Cal is 100% correct with that last statement IMO. Bigger than 224 seems to be about the point where you're really going to notice the car acting funny a lot because of the cam. I can like cam that I have ok, but I honestly can't see going any bigger than this and still being able to tolerate how bad it would run daily driven. I actually wanted to go a little bigger than the 228/236 when I ordered it, but those specs were the biggest I felt comfortable with without pulling the heads to check piston to valve clearance. I've got milled heads with big valves. XER 230 intake lobe probably would have fit, but I played it safe. I wanted something along the lines of XER 230/238 112 or maybe 232/240 112, which is the g5x2 I guess. I'm glad that I don't have anything bigger than what's in there now. A guy I talked to has a XER 234/242 112 in his heads/cam car, he says it's rowdy little thumper and it is mostly a track car but sees the street sometimes. Another thing I notice, Having a high stall converter seems to really hurt the idle because you loose like 20-30 pounds of mass that turns with the engine at idle to help it run smooth. Once I installed the high stall converter, my car used to stall all the time with a small B1 cam with a stock TB blade hole.

The g5x2 in a daily driven A4 346 ci has got to be a absolute PITA. I've never seen it posted, though I'm sure there are a few guys that are doing it. Anyone who can tolerate that cam in an A4 every day is a better man than I. With my 228/236, I have tried 93458734 different things with LS1 edit, and I still haven't been able to get the car to start up on its own and stay running without holding the gas down for a while...hot or cold startup.

TXCAMSS

iTrader: (60)

I have to recommend the C1 Hammer cam 222/566 112. I noticed Formulajoe has one for sale right now in the Texas section(if it's still available). It sounds mean and produces great power. Actually more than it should.

Good luck!