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Old 02-02-2012, 07:04 PM
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I am getting ready to order ....finally after hours and hours of reading For a fun street car that I daily drive and race twice a year on a fun Tueday night drag.
What would be your recommendations for a cam.
I am a little nervous on the EPS just because I am running stock LS1 heads with the Trunion upgrade so I don't want to break anything...600 rise and a big bigger cam

A 224/236 by EPS with 113lsa .600 rise or a TS 224/224 with 112lsa and .581 rise

I called both companies and that was theer recommendation with my mods I bought an ls6 intake Kook headers y pipe cat back flowmaster and a Yank SS3200
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EPS hands down! They know their stuff, and have the papers to prove it!

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I am leaning there as well I talk to Geoff wow He is incredebly knowledgeable
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Have all the rite numbers...
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IMO, I would lean towards the TS224/224 with LT headers, or even better yet a 224/228, possible even the EPS TT3 (224/230 111lsa). I just couldn't see going with the 224/236 EPS unless you were going to stick with stock exhaust manifolds.
http://www.engpwrsys.com/index.php?a...od&productId=6
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IMO, I would lean towards the TS224/224 with LT headers, or even better yet a 224/228, possible even the EPS TT3 (224/230 111lsa). I just couldn't see going with the 224/236 EPS unless you were going to stick with stock exhaust manifolds.
http://www.engpwrsys.com/index.php?a...od&productId=6
I have a Yank ss3200 Kook headers 1 7/8 and 3" cat back set up a lid an LS6 intake and 3:42 gears and I am looking for the best cam set up. Chances are I will not changed the heads if I do it will be in a few years
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The big split would probably help with nitrous or a supercharged app. Think its a bit over kill. I would also consider something in the 228r range. It can make a few more ponies then 224 without loss of drivability. Just my opinion but do so research on it.
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The big split would probably help with nitrous or a supercharged app. Think its a bit over kill. I would also consider something in the 228r range. It can make a few more ponies then 224 without loss of drivability. Just my opinion but do so research on it.
My mechanic said the same thing He is a wiz if you ask me That guy has like 5 ls motors from supercharge to cam set up and he mentionned a 224 or a 228 and also a custom drind but the custom grind with dual spring was like a grand. So the more I look at it I need to talk to Geoff at ESP or just buy from TS the 228 or the 224 but they recommend the behive that scares me for spring breakage I wonder If I should just run the dual's with that set up. I thought I was close but I guess I need to do more reading and asking around....
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Well if u do xer lobes u can go with comp 918s or the low lift pacs i think they r 1218s. I would recommend the better pacs 1518 i believe for the higher lifts on the eps over 0.600 there r some good duals out there i think Manley makes a good set.
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I would go with the 224 since you already have a 3200 converter and you have 3.42 gears. The bigger cams really need 3600+ converter.
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Default dual sping on low lift

Should I put a dual spring set up on a 224/224 .581 lift 112lsa I am trying to keep her safe

If going with a cam is a roll of the dice, then I'll just install my LS6 intake and headers and keep her like that..... I just hoped to wake it up :-)
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Do the 228r if you arent going the eps route. Its a little higher lift than the 224r and it will give you a little more horsepower
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If you go with the 224 you are going to be disappointed. I had a 228R in a head/cam/3000 stall ls6 and it ran hard but for ls2/3 you can do so much more. The 228r is not much bigger than the 224 but like I said. With all your mods, go bigger
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Take a look at the Futral F4 (226/226 112lsa, with .575" lift)
http://www.futralmotorsports.com/fms....asp?pf=1&pg=5

If you want to go a little over-kill,a set of PAC 1518s is more than enough!
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Originally Posted by Camaroking1996
Do the 228r if you arent going the eps route. Its a little higher lift than the 224r and it will give you a little more horsepower
Are you seriously giving advice on LS engines now?

Originally Posted by wantagofast
I am getting ready to order ....finally after hours and hours of reading For a fun street car that I daily drive and race twice a year on a fun Tueday night drag.
What would be your recommendations for a cam.
I am a little nervous on the EPS just because I am running stock LS1 heads with the Trunion upgrade so I don't want to break anything...600 rise and a big bigger cam

A 224/236 by EPS with 113lsa .600 rise or a TS 224/224 with 112lsa and .581 rise

I called both companies and that was theer recommendation with my mods I bought an ls6 intake Kook headers y pipe cat back flowmaster and a Yank SS3200

I think you mean EPS 226/234...

Also, if this is truly a street car you race twice a year, you need to go smaller with the cam. A small cam that makes gobs of tq will put a smile on your face WAY faster than one that is on the medium to large side.

I would do a 222 226 if you're going the EPS route...

You could also do basically the same specs as the TR 224 but on EPS lobes and make more power and tq compared to the original TR224
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Originally Posted by gregrob
I think you mean EPS 226/234...

Also, if this is truly a street car you race twice a year, you need to go smaller with the cam. A small cam that makes gobs of tq will put a smile on your face WAY faster than one that is on the medium to large side.

I would do a 222 226 if you're going the EPS route...

You could also do basically the same specs as the TR 224 but on EPS lobes and make more power and tq compared to the original TR224
I really appreciate the feedback I will be calling EPS and also would you go dual spring set up I was thinking it would be safer and do you change the springs every 20 to 30 000 miles
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Good info in this section!!
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+1 EPS Cam
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Originally Posted by wantagofast
I really appreciate the feedback I will be calling EPS and also would you go dual spring set up I was thinking it would be safer and do you change the springs every 20 to 30 000 miles
this is a good question ive been wondering about. what do people recommend when it comes to checking or replacing valve springs on engines pac 1218s, 1518s, or even the patiot golds or what ever with the 224r .581 range?
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go with double springs, if you are looking at the 224 cam skip it and go eps 226/234 as stated earlier in this thread. Makes great power down low. I made 435 with that cam and TSP stage ! 23's through an A4.


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