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Old 10-15-2012, 02:32 PM   #21
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Don't tempt me!!!

Seriously we may end up doing some business together in the upcoming months. I have a few customer builds that are getting started with the planning stages now and my own personal engine build that needs some attention after being put on hold.

That is a very impressive inventory and must be a small fortune in overhead.
Trust me, it's better than long lead times!

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ERL,

If I wanted to do a resleeve (427) and I had to purchase a block, could I buy an LS 5.3 and use LS3 accessories to complete the motor?

Goal being, save 700 bucks on the block.

I just know it can't be that easy but I guess what I'm getting at is parts interchangeabilty between the blocks.

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ERL,

If I wanted to do a resleeve (427) and I had to purchase a block, could I buy an LS 5.3 and use LS3 accessories to complete the motor?

Goal being, save 700 bucks on the block.

I just know it can't be that easy but I guess what I'm getting at is parts interchangeabilty between the blocks.
It is that easy, purchase the correct 5.3 and you are golden. My block is a 5.3
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Ray is correct! After we are done with our sleeving and machining there really isnt any difference between the LS2, LS3 and 5.3 blocks. I'm pretty certain that all the mounting points are the same.

The 5.3 will be just as strong if not stronger than the LS2 or LS3 blocks and they all get our ERL doweled billet main caps, ARP main studs and all the same sleeving and machining.

The Ohio Boys were #1 and #2 in the LSX Shootout Challenge Series this year and just won back to back LSX Shootout and we used 5.3 liter cores on their two engines. They are strong enough.

Give us a call and we can work on getting something going for you!
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I dropped a block off with the ERL guys during the shootout. I have no doubt that it's in good hands.
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ERL and Ray,

That is very good news. I will be in touch. Might have to do a little block shopping.

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It is that easy, purchase the correct 5.3 and you are golden. My block is a 5.3
Does it have to be an aluminum 5.3?
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Can't go wrong with either of these 2. I have a R.E.D block that i have been using for years without issues. I spoke with ERL at Sema a couple years ago and the guys really seem to know their stuff. Block on display looked tough! You would be in great hands either way
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Ray, what do you spin your motor to?
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Ray, what do you spin your motor to?
8800,,,,,,, so far
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I have a LS2 that was dry sleeved by Steve @ RED. Excellent quality.

Seems like both shops do great work.
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Wasn't Steven involved in the development and design of the Darton MID liners? I think he even owns part of a patent or something like that.

The ERL Superdeck blocks looks REALLY impressive in the pictures and the trussing or whatever it is called at the bottom of the sleeve is something I really like a lot.

I want to say off the top of my head for just you average dry sleeve LS2, L33, or LS7 that ERL is the less expensive (can't bring myself to use the word cheaper) of the two but it was only a few hundred bucks.
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Ray is correct! After we are done with our sleeving and machining there really isnt any difference between the LS2, LS3 and 5.3 blocks. I'm pretty certain that all the mounting points are the same.

The 5.3 will be just as strong if not stronger than the LS2 or LS3 blocks and they all get our ERL doweled billet main caps, ARP main studs and all the same sleeving and machining.

The Ohio Boys were #1 and #2 in the LSX Shootout Challenge Series this year and just won back to back LSX Shootout and we used 5.3 liter cores on their two engines. They are strong enough.

Give us a call and we can work on getting something going for you!
So, I've been looking around for 5.3 blocks and have run across a few. That said, they are used and often times that can be a buyer beware type of deal. Also, I really am not certain what the "correct" 5.3 block is. I think it may be this:

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If I wanted a new one could I go through you?
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So, I've been looking around for 5.3 blocks and have run across a few. That said, they are used and often times that can be a buyer beware type of deal. Also, I really am not certain what the "correct" 5.3 block is. I think it may be this:

GM GEN IV 5.3 LH6 LC9 LH8 ALUMINUM BARE BLOCK ENGINE 12571048

If I wanted a new one could I go through you?
You are correct and yes you can go though us to get a new one if we are going to sleeve or build you one of our packages.
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I just sent you a message. Hoping this one shows up.

Martin, thanks for all the kind words. If there is anything we can ever do for you guys let me know. we are only a couple States away from you all.

When you all are shopping around make sure you are comparing apples to apples when you look at price. Martin mentioned that some others "cost less" but make sure you know what you're getting for your money.

You aren't just getting a sleeved block with the block decked and cleaned. In addition to all that we also include in our price:
- block stress relieving
- a Finish Cylinder Hone
- an Align Hone
- A set of ARP Main Studs

In other words all the machining is all done here in house.

There are very, very few who can sleeve blocks without issues and certainly Steve w/ RED is one of them. I just wanted to address the cost issue that was raised.

Another thing we've worked hard on is our inventory. We have the following sleeved blocks in stock:

4 - LS2 Dry Sleeve blocks on the shelf (Just need to be finished honed)
9 - LS2, LS3, LSA and LS7 Superdeck 1 "4 bolt" blocks on the shelf (Just need to be finished honed)
13 - LS2, LS3 and 5.3 Superdeck 1 "6 bolt" blocks on the shelf (Just need to be finished honed)


So turn around time is very quick and we can also turn these into any of our short blocks as well pretty quick as well since the sleeving process is already completed.
So what do these guys cost? I looked on your website but only saw foreign stuff, unless i missed something. Looking for a block soon for the GT50-88 build im workin on.
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You have to click on domestic up in the corner.
http://www.erlperformance.com/home-domestic
We do both Domestic and sport compact blocks/engines.
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I just sent you a message. Hoping this one shows up.

Martin, thanks for all the kind words. If there is anything we can ever do for you guys let me know. we are only a couple States away from you all.

When you all are shopping around make sure you are comparing apples to apples when you look at price. Martin mentioned that some others "cost less" but make sure you know what you're getting for your money.

You aren't just getting a sleeved block with the block decked and cleaned. In addition to all that we also include in our price:
- block stress relieving
- a Finish Cylinder Hone
- an Align Hone
- A set of ARP Main Studs

In other words all the machining is all done here in house.

There are very, very few who can sleeve blocks without issues and certainly Steve w/ RED is one of them. I just wanted to address the cost issue that was raised.

Another thing we've worked hard on is our inventory. We have the following sleeved blocks in stock:

4 - LS2 Dry Sleeve blocks on the shelf (Just need to be finished honed)
9 - LS2, LS3, LSA and LS7 Superdeck 1 "4 bolt" blocks on the shelf (Just need to be finished honed)
13 - LS2, LS3 and 5.3 Superdeck 1 "6 bolt" blocks on the shelf (Just need to be finished honed)

So turn around time is very quick and we can also turn these into any of our short blocks as well pretty quick as well since the sleeving process is already completed.
Sean,

Thanks. I did get your PM. It will probably be 3-4 weeks before I can send my block to you, but will definately go with the Superdeck I 6 bolt option. When the block is complete, i will be sending it to LPE for a forged build.

What is the best option for shipping the block to you?

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Call us at 812-945-3434 and ask for Seth and he can help with that info. I'm out of the office but he can give you some guidance on shipping your block to us. Thanks.
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I have a REDs wet sleeved LS7 and have had no issues, that said I think I would go ERL the next time for the 6 bolt pattern and the lifter windows.

Steve was a great guy to deal with as well.

I do not think you can go wrong with either.
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