PEP crank
07-07-2013, 03:04 PM
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PEP crank My machinest is trying to sell me on a PEP crank. I am working on a deal for a crank on here with another member. If that falls through the PEP crank is my backup. Does anyone have any feedback on teh PEP crank. I did a search and another guy had mentioned it but gave no feedback from it in his motor. I am not looking at racing this car. I am only looking at 600-650 HP, with a 72mm turbo. Regular tires, not slicks. What do you guys think. The crank is 535.00 with the reluctor wheel.
07-07-2013, 03:21 PM
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I wouldn't trust that Sh*# what is it made from 98210 steel. Find that out 1st..... what type of steel is it ? Is it made in China? I can get you a Eagle Crank Brand New for around 850 bucks.Let me look at My receipt . $820.00 bucks And it's rated to 1500hp.
you are running a Turbo correct: How long before you are going to want more Boost? Tick..tick.........Boom!
you are running a Turbo correct: How long before you are going to want more Boost? Tick..tick.........Boom!
07-07-2013, 11:23 PM
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Its a 4340 crank, there are supposedly a few people making 1000+ with this crank. Im not going to get into the boost more than 10 lbs. I am going to set the car up once and be done. All the big numbers and boost are going to go into my track car. This isnt gonna be the car.
07-08-2013, 09:08 AM
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I wouldn't trust that Sh*# what is it made from 98210 steel. Find that out 1st..... what type of steel is it ? Is it made in China? I can get you a Eagle Crank Brand New for around 850 bucks.Let me look at My receipt . $820.00 bucks And it's rated to 1500hp.
you are running a Turbo correct: How long before you are going to want more Boost? Tick..tick.........Boom!
you are running a Turbo correct: How long before you are going to want more Boost? Tick..tick.........Boom!
07-09-2013, 10:44 AM
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I wouldn't trust that Sh*# what is it made from 98210 steel. Find that out 1st..... what type of steel is it ? Is it made in China? I can get you a Eagle Crank Brand New for around 850 bucks.Let me look at My receipt . $820.00 bucks And it's rated to 1500hp.
you are running a Turbo correct: How long before you are going to want more Boost? Tick..tick.........Boom!
you are running a Turbo correct: How long before you are going to want more Boost? Tick..tick.........Boom!
07-09-2013, 11:00 AM
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I'd take it over a ****** PEP. and I ain't never heard of a damn eagle crank with a problem doing 1000 hp ask HKE or LME I can get eagle all day long for $820 try that bullshit with callies ****, someone on this very site was like their cranks Eagle are always out of balance or some **** like that Eric quickly came on and stated that he must get the only bad 1's or is that we get the only good 1's here in Houston.
07-09-2013, 11:22 AM
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It must be then. I have an engine builder here that will pretty much will hand you your stuff back if you hand him an Eagle crank. Or he will let you know up front that if he finds the crank out of spec he will charge you to fix it. He fixes more Eagle cranks than Callies, I can tell you that much.
Ps. you aint never heard of a stock crank going over 1000 hp and having issues on here either, have you?
Take 10 Callies cranks, take 10 Eagle cranks and 10 Scat cranks, measure them, then tell me what you find out of round or out of spec. I'd bet money you will find Callies to be the most true out all of them.
Ps. you aint never heard of a stock crank going over 1000 hp and having issues on here either, have you?
Take 10 Callies cranks, take 10 Eagle cranks and 10 Scat cranks, measure them, then tell me what you find out of round or out of spec. I'd bet money you will find Callies to be the most true out all of them.
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07-09-2013, 10:05 PM
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Everyone isn't Warren Buffett.I'll put it out there like this I'm not going over 1000hp and you say Callies 1200.00 rods 600 to 700 bucks... flywheel all have to be balanced if we blueprinting. Eagle 820.... 525 and flywheel still have to get it Balanced and if anything the journals may be a little rough... Let's do the math...Some shops would rather have you spend that extra $$$$$ cause Callies may be gotten for more $$$$$$$ and 1st thing I know is a Shop is about What $$$$$. Answer this how much would a Callies be with his Discount.... and then how much does he sell it to the public for.Callies is the top of the food chain thats why you pay extra $$$$$$. (This is not the # 48 Chevy)...I'll take a
Whataburger.Also would you ride around in a1000hp stock crank engine...It's all about what you got in the bank,black card or in your pocket....What up 87 ....riding round and they ain't even know it.
Whataburger.Also would you ride around in a1000hp stock crank engine...It's all about what you got in the bank,black card or in your pocket....What up 87 ....riding round and they ain't even know it.
07-10-2013, 02:31 AM
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I have seen several PEP cranks make 1k+ hp. 1300hp is the highest i personally know of. My machinist (who works on John Force's Engines) now highly recommends them after we sent a few down to him. He also said they balanced better than the Callies, though he was referring to the Compstar.
07-10-2013, 08:08 AM
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I have seen several PEP cranks make 1k+ hp. 1300hp is the highest i personally know of. My machinist (who works on John Force's Engines) now highly recommends them after we sent a few down to him. He also said they balanced better than the Callies, though he was referring to the Compstar.
07-10-2013, 11:17 AM
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Look, it's easy to sit behind a computer and call bs on anything you want. I'm sure you have tons of experience with PEP cranks. I really couldn't give a **** less. The OP asked about a product and I gave my opinion and experience. I'm personally using a PEP crank in my new engine build. If you want to double check me on my "propaganda bull ****" feel free to contact the aforementioned machinist. Thunderworks out of Victorville, CA. The owners name is Marv.
07-10-2013, 02:48 PM
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I have seen several PEP cranks make 1k+ hp. 1300hp is the highest i personally know of. My machinist (who works on John Force's Engines) now highly recommends them after we sent a few down to him. He also said they balanced better than the Callies, though he was referring to the Compstar.
07-10-2013, 08:38 PM
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434 LSX running two pt7675 turbos and nitrous in a sand car. Made 1138 to the tire (a large tire at that) through an Albins sequential trans (about 25% drivetrain loss)
07-11-2013, 09:30 AM
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Well there is too much of a chance on this for me to feel comfortable with. I am unhappy with that Machinest and his BS. I am going with a different machine shop, and right off the back the guy said "Callies" or waste your money. I am getting a brand new Callies with 58tooh and balanced for about 950.00 I am happy with that.
07-11-2013, 11:14 AM
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Well there is too much of a chance on this for me to feel comfortable with. I am unhappy with that Machinest and his BS. I am going with a different machine shop, and right off the back the guy said "Callies" or waste your money. I am getting a brand new Callies with 58tooh and balanced for about 950.00 I am happy with that.
The most important part is that you're comfortable with whomever is working on your stuff. Glad to hear you found someone.
07-11-2013, 11:22 AM
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Usually have to be gone through about every other season. Only get used from October to early Spring. Usually nothing more than bearings and a clean. Biggest thing is that it has no dry sump oiling, and going up and down dunes all day there are a lot of no/low oiling conditions.
07-11-2013, 08:19 PM
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That crank is more than fine for what you are doing. I can tell you first hand, with lots of different ls engines. It will work just fine for what you are doing. They all come over on the same boat.
07-15-2013, 10:35 AM
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Yeah I know that all the crank cores come over. Its a shame...less jobs once again. I would have payed the extra for american made. I figure that the PEP crank would have sufficed, but its really not that much different in cost (a few hundred) plus if it fails I know that I have a large company to fall back on. That first machine shop, well the hell with that guy. No one likes a pushy salesman, or a know it all dick with poor phone manners.