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Old 02-02-2014, 07:50 AM
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Needing to know 8f its possible to do cam change with heads on with using short travel lifters.. not using the lifter cases
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Really would like to know bc I need order my timing set but idk if I wanna get the hexajust or just the billet chain.. its the heavy duty c5r chain on both. If I can do cam swaps il get the hexajust so easier degree cam in.. if not il get the other... input needed!!
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Yes. Just keep the lifters up off the cam.
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Originally Posted by KCS
Yes. Just keep the lifters up off the cam.


How would u do that when there link bar lifters?
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Originally Posted by ws6guy27
How would u do that when there link bar lifters?
First off, I hope you never swap cams in an LS engine and rely on the trays to keep the lifters up. Most people that have actually tried it that way would recommend against it.

There are other ways. There are dowels you can buy to slide in the oil passages above the cam tunnel which will hold up the lifters. Others have used 8mm plug wire. I bought 16 pen magnets from Autozone and used a zip tie or rubber band to tie them together.

This isn't some hidden ninja secret either. Just about any "How To" write up for swapping cams will explain the same tricks. I'd suggest you do some research as there are other helpful tips and tricks you might learn as well.
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Originally Posted by KCS

First off, I hope you never swap cams in an LS engine and rely on the trays to keep the lifters up. Most people that have actually tried it that way would recommend against it.

There are other ways. There are dowels you can buy to slide in the oil passages above the cam tunnel which will hold up the lifters. Others have used 8mm plug wire. I bought 16 pen magnets from Autozone and used a zip tie or rubber band to tie them together.

This isn't some hidden ninja secret either. Just about any "How To" write up for swapping cams will explain the same tricks. I'd suggest you do some research as there are other helpful tips and tricks you might learn as well.
+1 with the dowel guides. I always peeled my heads when swapping out cams, but if you aren't replacing your rollers at the same time, the dowel guides is the route I would have taken
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Originally Posted by jwindbigler
+1 with the dowel guides. I always peeled my heads when swapping out cams, but if you aren't replacing your rollers at the same time, the dowel guides is the route I would have taken
The dowels work, but unless you are swapping cams pretty frequently, you won't really use them too often. I bought those pen magnets, it worked perfectly, and I always use those pen magnets when I drop a bolt or washer. It sucks to drop a bolt down in the engine bay and it doesn't hit the ground lol.
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Originally Posted by KCS

The dowels work, but unless you are swapping cams pretty frequently, you won't really use them too often. I bought those pen magnets, it worked perfectly, and I always use those pen magnets when I drop a bolt or washer. It sucks to drop a bolt down in the engine bay and it doesn't hit the ground lol.
Autozone or oreileys won't have this to rent would they?
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Originally Posted by jwindbigler
Autozone or oreileys won't have this to rent would they?
I don't think so. You may find them from some of the site sponsors though.
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I hate dropping **** down in the engine bay. Get the pen magnets.

Btw, I once dropped a bolt INTO the framerail above the radiator. I was like WTF. It's boxed and enclosed on both ends. But it has openings just big enough to get a punch and a magnet into it to coax **** out.

Luckily, rage, magnets, and rage got it out.
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When I did my cam swap I used metal rods to keep the lifters up. Although the lifters stayed up in the trays when I did it, I still put the rods in for piece of mind.
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Not using lifter trays
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Originally Posted by bozzhawg
Good luck doing this with link bar lifters without pulling the heads.
Its doable with four pen magnets, a helper, and patience.
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Originally Posted by bozzhawg
Good luck doing this with link bar lifters without pulling the heads.
You can do it with the magnets for sure. It's more time and money to pull the heads.
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Go buy 5/16 round wooden dowel from home depot there Lik 3 bucks and use them they work!!! Trust me iv done it few times...



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