L92 OLDS

It's time to buy a cam for my 09' 6.2 L92. The plan is to swap the cam, add long tubes and a tune for max power and good driveability. The motor is a VVT engine without DOD. I am considering either the Texas Speed VVT1 or VVT2 but finding apples to apples dyno comparisons is difficult.

The engine is going in my 3600 lb 1986 Olds 442. It has a beefed up suspension and frame with the 3.73", 8.5" rear and will get a 4L80E trans and I'm willing to buy a small stall if needed. I hope to break into the 11's with this car. Any thoughts or recommendations for those that have TSP VVT cams?

Thanks

Jimbo1367

Have Patrick G design a custom VVT cam. Try a SEARCH w/his SN

L92 OLDS

I'm listening. What benefit does the Patrick G design offer over competitors?

Jimbo1367

Patrick can taylor the events to suite you. Whereas TSP offers 3 or 4 VVT cams and you have to pic the one you think will suite you.

Jason 98 TA

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The argument I always have to the let someone custom grind you a camshaft is this:

If you could use a lobe catalog & nail every cam combo why would companies spend 100k+ to build dyno cells? Why not just buy the latest lobe catalog & roll out some lobe numbers?

With the TSP profiles I just about wore out a L99 engine making countless dyno pulls testing everything you could imagine. With weeks & weeks of nothing but swapping camshaft profiles into the L99 engine I'm 1000% confident the TSP camshaft will outperform a custom grind in most applications.

Patrick does a great job & I like him a lot, he will always do a great job lining you out a camshaft no doubt.

What we offer is simple. We spent the tons of money & R&D time to make sure we offer the best combinations for our customers. Nobody else in the LS industry has spent 200 dyno pulls testing L99 camshafts side by side. Nobody...

That's why when you call & say what does this cam do vs this cam side by side we can tell you. You don't have to hear Bobs SS made 425 & Larry's SS made 430 so cam 2 must be 5 better. We all know side by side is the only way you actually know which cam is better at each rpm!

L92 OLDS

Thanks for your input Jason,

Can you provide an Dyno curve that would represent my combination and your VVT1 camshaft? The L92 will be stock other than long tube headers, and an ECM tune. What is peak horsepower likely to be?

Thank you

Sales4@Texas-Speed

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Our computer for the engine dyno is in storage. We are going to go get it to grab the graphs off of it later. As soon as we do that we will get the graph posted for you.

Thanks
Derek

L92 OLDS

Great. I would like data to make a decision

Thank you

Da Reazon

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Check out gpi performance they are pretty bad ***.

62nalide

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GPI has the best VVT grinds out there
Haven't seen any other shops make and perform like what they do.
Ryan spends nights and days on VVT profiles. No one has gotten close what he has done

Jimbo1367

Link to their webpage? Is their na,e actually GPI or does it go by some other name?

62nalide

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Gweatney performance innovations
Ask for Aaron and or Ryan.
They just broke the record for the fastest stock bottom-end ZR1 at 8.44 at 163 last night also lol

L92 OLDS

Thanks for the input.

Texas Speed, I am still waiting for your dyno graph comparison

Without it I will not buy your product. Can you provide?

L92 OLDS

Bump...Texas Speed....Hello?

Sales4@Texas-Speed

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Sorry about the delay. We have been so covered up with phones lately, we have not had much chance to log onto the forums. PM me your e-mail address and I will try and send you the dyno graph you're looking for today.

derek@texas-speed.com

casias

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Since there are a lot of people watching this thread, wouldn't it be more time-effective to put the dyno graphs here?

Jimbo1367

As much as I like TSP's products, they DO TEND TO DROP THE BALL once they say they have dyno data to back up there clams. They will chime in on threads and say they will post it, but disappear.


I still say Patrick G

casias

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Yeah, I have seen that also. Not wanting to call them out, but I find it hard to believe that they spent all of this time researching these cams, then can't seem to find any results.

After considering the options, I have chosen to take the vvt out for a new cam. The first thing I noticed when I pulled off the vvt was the WEIGHT of the phaser. It must weigh 4 lbs. The new cam gear weight less than a pound. That should be an improvement.

Sales4@Texas-Speed

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Absolutely! And once we have the graph, that will be done. As well as it being uploaded to our website where everyone can see it.
I do apologize for not checking the forum more often. We stay extremely busy and flag phone calls literally ALL day. Our dyno equipment and everything to go with it, including the computer, is still in storage in Lubbock. We did not have room for it when we made our move to Austin, as we are in a temporary facility that is much too small. We are trying to coordinate a trip to retrieve the computer so we can post the graph. I admit it was a huge down-sight on our part not to transfer that information to our main server, but hey, hind sight is 20/20.

Thanks
We literally had 139 pulls on our engine dyno testing VVT cams the first go-round. The second round had nearly 75, if I remember correctly. We have spent countless hours perfecting our VVT lobe selections. As stated above, we are 300 miles from the computer, but we will post the graph as soon as possible. I can't apologize enough for that. Rest assured, we will get you the information you are looking for. In the meantime, you can compare it to the graph of our VVT-2 cam, which can also be found on our website. This shows back to back; stock to VVT-2. With the VVT-1, You would lose about 5-7 FWHP and about the same FWTQ at peak while maintaining a similar curve throughout the powerband. If you do decide to go non-VVT, we have a good selection of camshafts for that application as well and would be glad to help pick the right one for you.

Thanks and have a great day!
- Beau