Chopstix

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As you guys all know the upcoming GTO is based on the Holden Monaro CV8 platform. This is a link to the Holden Monaro HSV (Holden Specialty Vehicles) HRT427. It comes from the factory with a 427 C.I. big block, 6 spd, 9" rearend, 4:11 gears, 4 pt roll cage and many many other upgrades.

http://www.hsv.com.au/vy/showcars/showcar.asp

GM execs please build this

General specifications
Country of origin Australia
Produced in 2002
Introduced at 2002 Sydney Motorshow
Numbers built N/A
Body design N/A
Weight 1575 kg / 3472.3 lbs

Drivetrain
Engine Chevrolet C5R 90º V8
Engine location Front, longitudinally mounted
Displacement 6.980 liter / 425.9 cu in
Valvetrain 2 valves/cylinder, OHV
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Naturally Aspirated
Gearbox Tremec T56 M12 6 Speed Manual
Drive Rear wheel drive

Performance figures
Power 560 bhp / 417.8 kW @ 6000 rpm
BHP/Liter 80.2
Torque 780 Nm / 575.3 ft lbs @ 4800 rpm
Power to weight ratio 0.36 bhp/kg
Top Speed 186.4 mph / 300.0 km/h
0-60 mph Acceleration 3.80 s

Orange Krush

U know better Chops ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Nothing and I mean "NOTHING" can be more powerful than the top Vette (in this case it would be the ZO6), GM will never allow it !

Remember what happened to the GN's, and GNX's ? They went the way of the Dodo bird because they broke the one standing rule, no GM built vehicle can surpass the companies premiere bad ride, the Corvette ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />


So maybe if they give that motor to the C-6 and a tamer one to your proposed vehicle it could happen, but other than that it's very doubtful ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

Sorry pal ! Not trying to rain on your parade, just facing facts ! <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />

By the way I do like the idea and the look ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />

Chopstix

iTrader: (1)

I know it would never see Pontiac badging. But that sucker almost makes me want to learn to shift with my left hand.

strife

HSV have 300kw Callaway (C4B) they through in the GTS vehicles

They also are supposed to have 30 orders for the above HRT 427

strife

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chopstix:
<strong> I know it would never see Pontiac badging. But that sucker almost makes me want to learn to shift with my left hand. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">feels like someone else is doing it

<img src="http://www.hsvgto.com/rhd.gif" alt=" - " />

Orange Krush

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chopstix:
<strong> That sucker almost makes me want to learn to shift with my left hand. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ditto ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

VSCommy

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Orange Krush:
<strong> U know better Chops ! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Nothing and I mean "NOTHING" can be more powerful than the top Vette (in this case it would be the ZO6), GM will never allow it !</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well see thats why it will get produced. It's not part of GM. It's different to Holden. Basically it's there own company to which GM have no control over.

In fact chances are unless you are a high flyer and visit here (Australia) every now and then, or some one imports one, u'll never see this car on your roads. HSV are apparantly only building 50 of them, and most of them have already been ordered.

Devil CV8

Order books are now closed with 60 orders taken, altho its only supposed to be 50 cars.

ozemuscle1

no production......

WECIV

I thought they ended up vetoing the idea...

jamesd

in the end they stoped the idea because of some safety issue or something. Plus we would never put it in a pontiac

damoharrison

For those of you interested the 427 was killed off by holden accountants, they originally wanted to sell the car for AU$350 000 but when they built 2 prototypes they discovered the price was almost AU$400 000 and because they'd already promised the customers who pre-ordered it that the price would be no more than AU$350 000 rather than bring the car out and refund the difference they killed it off.
Don't panic though people as we will see some very hi-po monaros coming out soon. The 427 is not dead, just wounded and resting.

bruddah_man_matt

Where'd you hear that? I heard that Holden killed the car because the majority of the people who put down deposits wanted to garage the cars as collectors items rather than track them which was what Holden wanted buyers to do. I heard that Holden would have had to have increased the price, but that buyers didn't care and wanted the car anyway. The problem was that the prospective buyers were collectors rather than racers which is not what Holden wanted for the car.

damoharrison

The official statement from Holden was that it would cost too much. Monaros with 427s in them are already racing. Theres a 24-hour race at Bathurst (visit http://www.bathurst24hr.com/) that two of them compete in, last year the 427 Monaro won it against such competition as Porsche GT3s, Ferraris and Lamborginis, as well as BMW M5's and Dodge Vipers. The 427s also run in the Procar series of which the 24hr race is just one part (visit http://www.procar.com.au). Australia's greatest V8 driver Peter Brock currently competes in one in Rallys and the 24-hour as well. They are looking towards LeMans in the next few years.