New v6 mustang an SS beater?
10-17-2008, 12:25 PM
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New v6 mustang an SS beater? http://mustangs.about.com/od/modelye...boost-ford.htm
415hp from a direct injection turbocharged v6. The 415hp version of the engine has already hit showroom floors in Australia, in a number of different cars.
This is why I have reservations about buying a new camaro. With the technology accelerating so quickly, and a direct injection V8 just around the corner for corvette(+1 year and the camaro too), The curent car begins to look like a stopgap....
Maybe I'm just too attached to my money, but I'm holding out to see what comes next. Anybody else?
415hp from a direct injection turbocharged v6. The 415hp version of the engine has already hit showroom floors in Australia, in a number of different cars.
This is why I have reservations about buying a new camaro. With the technology accelerating so quickly, and a direct injection V8 just around the corner for corvette(+1 year and the camaro too), The curent car begins to look like a stopgap....
Maybe I'm just too attached to my money, but I'm holding out to see what comes next. Anybody else?
10-17-2008, 12:41 PM
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http://mustangs.about.com/od/modelye...boost-ford.htm
415hp from a direct injection turbocharged v6. The 415hp version of the engine has already hit showroom floors in Australia, in a number of different cars.
This is why I have reservations about buying a new camaro. With the technology accelerating so quickly, and a direct injection V8 just around the corner for corvette(+1 year and the camaro too), The curent car begins to look like a stopgap....
Maybe I'm just too attached to my money, but I'm holding out to see what comes next. Anybody else?
415hp from a direct injection turbocharged v6. The 415hp version of the engine has already hit showroom floors in Australia, in a number of different cars.
This is why I have reservations about buying a new camaro. With the technology accelerating so quickly, and a direct injection V8 just around the corner for corvette(+1 year and the camaro too), The curent car begins to look like a stopgap....
Maybe I'm just too attached to my money, but I'm holding out to see what comes next. Anybody else?
10-17-2008, 12:48 PM
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Ford has yet to confirm that motor going into the mustang.
You can read on Ford forums even they doubt I't will be in the mustang anytime soon....its a new motor and expensive to much for a "base" mustang...maybe some years down who knows. But I doubt it.
You can read on Ford forums even they doubt I't will be in the mustang anytime soon....its a new motor and expensive to much for a "base" mustang...maybe some years down who knows. But I doubt it.
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10-17-2008, 03:13 PM
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http://mustangs.about.com/od/modelye...boost-ford.htm
415hp from a direct injection turbocharged v6. The 415hp version of the engine has already hit showroom floors in Australia, in a number of different cars.
This is why I have reservations about buying a new camaro. With the technology accelerating so quickly, and a direct injection V8 just around the corner for corvette(+1 year and the camaro too), The curent car begins to look like a stopgap....
Maybe I'm just too attached to my money, but I'm holding out to see what comes next. Anybody else?
415hp from a direct injection turbocharged v6. The 415hp version of the engine has already hit showroom floors in Australia, in a number of different cars.
This is why I have reservations about buying a new camaro. With the technology accelerating so quickly, and a direct injection V8 just around the corner for corvette(+1 year and the camaro too), The curent car begins to look like a stopgap....
Maybe I'm just too attached to my money, but I'm holding out to see what comes next. Anybody else?
While a turbo 6 Mustang might be able to keep up with a Camaro SS in the 1/4 mile, it doesn't stand a chance in things that actually matter, like how the car drives, feels, handles, and stops, especially if its still using the truck axle...
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10-18-2008, 08:45 PM
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I have a hard time beliving a 415hp motor would be considered the new "base" motor, especially seeing as how right now the V8 only makes 300hp. They would step up the v8 and make a economy v6 for the "base" motor or make the v8 the new "base" motor.
10-18-2008, 11:51 PM
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Exactly.. this motor, if it even makes it in a stang, will not be a base option. And, with that in mind, it better not be the GT base engine either as ford will absolutely kill the stang.
As for the design being outdated... the only thing outdated is the perception that people have over the v-8 engine and classic musclecar looks. Generally speaking, you are the ones responsible for sure ideology... not the car. If you want something "fresh", get a jap. car that looks just like everything else on the road.
As for the design being outdated... the only thing outdated is the perception that people have over the v-8 engine and classic musclecar looks. Generally speaking, you are the ones responsible for sure ideology... not the car. If you want something "fresh", get a jap. car that looks just like everything else on the road.
10-19-2008, 12:38 AM
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The TT V6 would not be the base by a long shot. If you think it would. your a dumbass.
It'd be a N/A V6 an N/A V8 and then a special performance TT V6 if anything. Hell they may not even have the V8, though thats unlikely, because there are so many hicks out there that would rather have a V8 over a V6 in the Mustang, even if the V6 was a TT, it would apaul some people, because the V8 is herritage
It'd be a N/A V6 an N/A V8 and then a special performance TT V6 if anything. Hell they may not even have the V8, though thats unlikely, because there are so many hicks out there that would rather have a V8 over a V6 in the Mustang, even if the V6 was a TT, it would apaul some people, because the V8 is herritage
10-19-2008, 08:14 AM
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Torque is what moves your car, your car accelerates according to your torque curve exactly. So where you make the most torque is when you will be accelerating the hardest. Peak hp is great for marketing, but not much else.
http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html
10-19-2008, 11:59 AM
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hp = torque*RPM/5252, you can't have one without the other.
Torque is what moves your car, your car accelerates according to your torque curve exactly. So where you make the most torque is when you will be accelerating the hardest. Peak hp is great for marketing, but not much else.
http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html
Torque is what moves your car, your car accelerates according to your torque curve exactly. So where you make the most torque is when you will be accelerating the hardest. Peak hp is great for marketing, but not much else.
http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html
10-19-2008, 01:21 PM
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hp = torque/5252, you can't have one without the other.
Torque is what moves your car, your car accelerates according to your torque curve exactly. So where you make the most torque is when you will be accelerating the hardest. Peak hp is great for marketing, but not much else.
http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html
Torque is what moves your car, your car accelerates according to your torque curve exactly. So where you make the most torque is when you will be accelerating the hardest. Peak hp is great for marketing, but not much else.
http://www.vettenet.org/torquehp.html
Car accelerates the quickest where it makes the most POWER period
10-19-2008, 01:56 PM
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ooops thanks. 
No.
Cars have gears, and the higher the numerical gear you go (like 1,2,3 etc.) the less torque the car is putting to the wheels. So in 1st gear your making more torque at the wheels at the same RPM than in 2nd and so on. This is why you "wind out" the gears instead of shifting a peak torque, because if you would have short shifted you'd be making less torque to the wheels than if you stayed in the lower gear and ran it out.
So wrong.
Read the web page I posted, you can do the "experiment" yourself.
Its best to have something like a truck because of their powerbands. Put it into 1st and drive up to where you make peak torque and hammer it. Do the same thing where you make peak power, and you'll notice (depending on how much torque you make at that RPM) its much less of a kick. LS1 cars are kinda hard to notice this with because of how flat of a torque curve we have.
Cars have gears, and the higher the numerical gear you go (like 1,2,3 etc.) the less torque the car is putting to the wheels. So in 1st gear your making more torque at the wheels at the same RPM than in 2nd and so on. This is why you "wind out" the gears instead of shifting a peak torque, because if you would have short shifted you'd be making less torque to the wheels than if you stayed in the lower gear and ran it out.
Car accelerates the quickest where it makes the most POWER period
Read the web page I posted, you can do the "experiment" yourself.
Its best to have something like a truck because of their powerbands. Put it into 1st and drive up to where you make peak torque and hammer it. Do the same thing where you make peak power, and you'll notice (depending on how much torque you make at that RPM) its much less of a kick. LS1 cars are kinda hard to notice this with because of how flat of a torque curve we have.
10-19-2008, 05:33 PM
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That engine cited as being released in Australia is actually made by Ford Australia for Australia only, you'll never see it here and it's being phased out Down Under in a few years because of emissions regulations. It's an inline six with a single turbo and it pumps out 415hp in Ford's top performance car there.
The turbo engine the Mustang may get is based on Ford's new 3.5L V6 which is US engineered. When Ford debuted the twin-turbo version of this engine they called it Twin-Force and it made over 400hp easily. Whether it does in any production vehicle they make is yet to be seen.
The turbo engine the Mustang may get is based on Ford's new 3.5L V6 which is US engineered. When Ford debuted the twin-turbo version of this engine they called it Twin-Force and it made over 400hp easily. Whether it does in any production vehicle they make is yet to be seen.
10-19-2008, 08:08 PM
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ooops thanks.
No.
Cars have gears, and the higher the numerical gear you go (like 1,2,3 etc.) the less torque the car is putting to the wheels. So in 1st gear your making more torque at the wheels at the same RPM than in 2nd and so on. This is why you "wind out" the gears instead of shifting a peak torque, because if you would have short shifted you'd be making less torque to the wheels than if you stayed in the lower gear and ran it out.
So wrong.
Read the web page I posted, you can do the "experiment" yourself.
Its best to have something like a truck because of their powerbands. Put it into 1st and drive up to where you make peak torque and hammer it. Do the same thing where you make peak power, and you'll notice (depending on how much torque you make at that RPM) its much less of a kick. LS1 cars are kinda hard to notice this with because of how flat of a torque curve we have.
No.
Cars have gears, and the higher the numerical gear you go (like 1,2,3 etc.) the less torque the car is putting to the wheels. So in 1st gear your making more torque at the wheels at the same RPM than in 2nd and so on. This is why you "wind out" the gears instead of shifting a peak torque, because if you would have short shifted you'd be making less torque to the wheels than if you stayed in the lower gear and ran it out.
So wrong.
Read the web page I posted, you can do the "experiment" yourself.
Its best to have something like a truck because of their powerbands. Put it into 1st and drive up to where you make peak torque and hammer it. Do the same thing where you make peak power, and you'll notice (depending on how much torque you make at that RPM) its much less of a kick. LS1 cars are kinda hard to notice this with because of how flat of a torque curve we have.
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man we should all put diesels in our cars and maximize the power below 5k since thats where our car will be the fastest
