Played with my car at BEAVER! Clutch update
10-19-2008, 04:58 PM
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Played with my car at BEAVER! Clutch update Well I took the car to Beaver Raceway to see what would happen. I promised my friend I would run the car yesterday for his Bachelor party at the track. I took the car in full race ready form minus having a little over half a tank of gas and I didnt add Torco to the car.
First pass with the car wamed up to 190deg's went ok but I think the clutch felt like it hazed very very slightly but made it out and down the track. 2nd pass also felt like it hazed but more. I let the car cool atleast 30-45minutes between runs. I came up and did a 3rd run and the car spun sideways a bit out of the hole so that run wasn't to great. Let the car cool and came back up and I thought the car spun but everyone said couldnt tell but it didnt look like the tires were spinning. I hot lapped the car again and thought i spun again and once again everyone said its not spinning the tires but looks like its pulling out hard. I had no problems shifting but due to clutch worries I didnt try powershifting the car. So my results are vary and not sure but signs of the clutch being ok are not there like I wish. I missed no gears and shifting was ok so the TICK PERFORMANCE master appears to working on but still can't say it works shifting the car at 6700rpm with the pedal to the floor or a light lift on shifting. I was doing the traditional complete lift on each shift. Before I say the times and MPH I have to say this. BEAVER raceway is 700ft above sea level, has a 8* degree incline down the track and you drift bacwards at the line. I ended up deep staging the car so I couldnt drift out of the beams. This is also a IHRA track. They determine trap speeds slightly different then NHRA. I think the timing points are closer together where the NHRA is further apart and shows your approx speed over the 2 points and the IHRA shows the closer speed at the end more so I think. Traditionally most say the track will run approx .15-.20 slower due to the conditions versus a track at sea level. The air conditions were very very good. Upper 40's lower 50's. Mostly clear day slight over cast for most of the morning.
1st pass
1.567-60ft
4.663-330ft
7.213-1/8th
98.77mph
9.430-1000ft
11.250-1/4mi
125.71mph
2nd pass
1.585-60ft
4.660-330ft
7.195-1/8th
99.05 MPH
9.407-1000ft
11.222-1/4mi
125.94mph
3rd pass
1.693-60ft
4.789-330ft
7.333-1/8th
98.66mph
9.558-1000ft
11.388-1/4mi
124.91mph
4th pass
1.859-60ft
4.979-330ft
7.534-1/8th
98.46mph
9.757-1000ft
11.580-1/4mi
125.50mph
5th pass
1.827-60ft
4.931-330ft
7.484-1/8th
98.89mph
9.705-1000ft
11.530-1/4mi
125.43mph
First pass with the car wamed up to 190deg's went ok but I think the clutch felt like it hazed very very slightly but made it out and down the track. 2nd pass also felt like it hazed but more. I let the car cool atleast 30-45minutes between runs. I came up and did a 3rd run and the car spun sideways a bit out of the hole so that run wasn't to great. Let the car cool and came back up and I thought the car spun but everyone said couldnt tell but it didnt look like the tires were spinning. I hot lapped the car again and thought i spun again and once again everyone said its not spinning the tires but looks like its pulling out hard. I had no problems shifting but due to clutch worries I didnt try powershifting the car. So my results are vary and not sure but signs of the clutch being ok are not there like I wish. I missed no gears and shifting was ok so the TICK PERFORMANCE master appears to working on but still can't say it works shifting the car at 6700rpm with the pedal to the floor or a light lift on shifting. I was doing the traditional complete lift on each shift. Before I say the times and MPH I have to say this. BEAVER raceway is 700ft above sea level, has a 8* degree incline down the track and you drift bacwards at the line. I ended up deep staging the car so I couldnt drift out of the beams. This is also a IHRA track. They determine trap speeds slightly different then NHRA. I think the timing points are closer together where the NHRA is further apart and shows your approx speed over the 2 points and the IHRA shows the closer speed at the end more so I think. Traditionally most say the track will run approx .15-.20 slower due to the conditions versus a track at sea level. The air conditions were very very good. Upper 40's lower 50's. Mostly clear day slight over cast for most of the morning.
1st pass
1.567-60ft
4.663-330ft
7.213-1/8th
98.77mph
9.430-1000ft
11.250-1/4mi
125.71mph
2nd pass
1.585-60ft
4.660-330ft
7.195-1/8th
99.05 MPH
9.407-1000ft
11.222-1/4mi
125.94mph
3rd pass
1.693-60ft
4.789-330ft
7.333-1/8th
98.66mph
9.558-1000ft
11.388-1/4mi
124.91mph
4th pass
1.859-60ft
4.979-330ft
7.534-1/8th
98.46mph
9.757-1000ft
11.580-1/4mi
125.50mph
5th pass
1.827-60ft
4.931-330ft
7.484-1/8th
98.89mph
9.705-1000ft
11.530-1/4mi
125.43mph
10-20-2008, 12:30 PM
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Huh, in the Manual Section all I hear about is how amazing that Tick master cylinder is, but in my experience it didn't do anything special (installed and tested on BlackScreaminMachine's car). And it sounds like it's not doing any wonders for you, either. I tend to get the feeling that some people tell themselves a part works wonders even if it doesn't because they feel they have to after dropping over $300 on a part that would have cost them half that for another brand. I'd still like to get one and test it out on my car, but I just can't see spending that kind of money unless I'm having MAJOR issues.
10-20-2008, 05:46 PM
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PewterScreaminMach, I'm not a band wagoner as many are. I can honestly say the master cylinder is a quality piece, well engineered, very easy to adjust with noticeable differences with even small adjustments. I did notice a smoother shifting at lower RPM's. As for being able to flat shift the car now i have not done enough running the car at the track to know what i think of that part. Obviously the most important part to me and we'll see. I will post up my complete results when done. I would recommend the part though. Me personally i never had a shifting problem with a properly bleed system on my Fbodies and I could flat shift them like it was no ones business with a stock master/slave and no drill mod. My corvette is completely different. I think many find that they needed the sugar pill to shift their cars faster/harder then they did before.