Staff Project Comments & Discussion - dlove's 414 Powered 00' Z28

I'm open to any questions someone might have about my car. :chug:

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Yeah, I have a question... how the hell do I keep up with that thing? :D That car hauls the mail!

I see that you have the motor mounted normally...but don't understand how you made it work for the front wheel drive setup?

I see that you have the motor mounted normally...but don't understand how you made it work for the front wheel drive setup?

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Yeah, I have a question... how the hell do I keep up with that thing? :D That car hauls the mail!

You still havent even rode in it and its 7500 rpm of fun :D

Free ride next time you are in town.

I see that you have the motor mounted normally...but don't understand how you made it work for the front wheel drive setup?

IS THAT THING REALLY FRONT WHEEL DRIVE?
BECAUSE THE AVATAR JUST LOOKS PHOTOSHOPED

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my favorite car on here by far man, how did you get the 10 second pass? the new stall and new intake? i put all the numbers in the gear calculator and thats one hell of a first gear pull that must feel insane.

once again sweet car, if its for sale any time let me know haha.

my favorite car on here by far man, how did you get the 10 second pass? the new stall and new intake? i put all the numbers in the gear calculator and thats one hell of a first gear pull that must feel insane.

once again sweet car, if its for sale any time let me know haha.

I bought the car running low 12's high 11's. It was full weight, no suspension. It had TEA stage 1 heads and a 218/224 cam. I got the car down to high 10's on motor with just suspension, drivetrain, and weight mods.

Then I put in the ls2 with the stock l92's and a cam and im still working on getting a "good" setup.

I havent seen much gains from different intakes, and different stalls, as much as I have from weight and suspension.

First gear goes to about 85 mph. I really need some different gears for the car. It has 3.73, I want some 4.56's

Thanks for the comments!

IS THAT THING REALLY FRONT WHEEL DRIVE?
BECAUSE THE AVATAR JUST LOOKS PHOTOSHOPED

THANKS!!!


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I like your car over a lot of others on this site. I don't find too many high dollar builds that interesting unless they're done on a budget. I like your car because you do it all yourself and have done a lot of similar things I have (granted you did them first). I've used a lot of the weight reduction and automatic transmission info you've posted to help me along the way.

I bought my 93 for $900 with a leaking freeze plug and it's turned into a complete redo of the car. So far I've taken 307 lbs out of the car. I'm switching from an LT1 / 4l60 to a LS1 / TH350 / 10 inch converter and stand to loose roughly another 120 lbs. I figure I can get the car to around 2960 with me in it by that time. Eventually, I should be able to get it down to 2650 while still having the AC, PS, all the interior panels, and two seats.

I want it to look relatively stock, be super light, and suprise a lot of people. That's pretty much what your car is and that's why I like it.

thats exactly what i want with my car, although it wont sound stock with 18 inch header extensions. lol. loving the car dlove.

I like your car over a lot of others on this site. I don't find too many high dollar builds that interesting unless they're done on a budget. I like your car because you do it all yourself and have done a lot of similar things I have (granted you did them first). I've used a lot of the weight reduction and automatic transmission info you've posted to help me along the way.

I bought my 93 for $900 with a leaking freeze plug and it's turned into a complete redo of the car. So far I've taken 307 lbs out of the car. I'm switching from an LT1 / 4l60 to a LS1 / TH350 / 10 inch converter and stand to loose roughly another 120 lbs. I figure I can get the car to around 2960 with me in it by that time. Eventually, I should be able to get it down to 2650 while still having the AC, PS, all the interior panels, and two seats.

I want it to look relatively stock, be super light, and suprise a lot of people. That's pretty much what your car is and that's why I like it.

yeah i have seen your post with your car(s) as well lol. should be a pretty interesting if you hit the weight goals. I easily have a couple hundred pounds that I can take out still. Just need to spend some money.

thats exactly what i want with my car, although it wont sound stock with 18 inch header extensions. lol. loving the car dlove.

I really need a video of my car idling now. I just played with the idle settings in EFI Live the other day and I really turned it into a new car at idle. My 12'' header extensions make it sound pretty good.



thanks everyone.

I'm going to find some old track videos with my car and post them in the other thread

well, as said before.. car looks good man. take it easy bro.

plans for the ls3?

Nice. :cheers: I love LS1 F-bodies, I love LS2s and I love LS3s so this car is right up my alley. :nod:

plans for the ls3?

Let LG work the l92 heads and pick up a g6x3 cam.

Nice. :cheers: I love LS1 F-bodies, I love LS2s and I love LS3s so this car is right up my alley. :nod:

Thanks!

sounds good, stock displacement? higher comp?

stock cubes, not sure on what the comp will be, but it will be higher.

going for a mild 500hp N/A build

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cant wait to see the new setup man!

yea I have a question... How about showing us a picture of the passanger side.... :punch:


anyways, the LS3 should work very well, and I see some mid low 10's on the motor with your weight..

I just cant get myself to gut my car like you have... Just take a look at our Nova... still has everything in it. I love my race cars that way lol

You like your women that way as well LOL


Hell it already went a low/mid 10's on the last setup...10.4

Hope to see some lower 10's and then drop to the 9's with suspension work.


ps. the passenger side looks good now

hey man im doing this same swap but with a ls3 intake manifold instead, im thinking pretty hard on the g6x3 cam it seems way better than all the rest, any other options out there that are actually decent??

I'm putting a l76 intake on this setup.

ls3 manifold and l76 manifold are the same thing.

yea i thought you were sticking with the same gmpp intake as your ls2/l92 headed combo haha sorry for the confusion, man i cant wait to get my 6.2 on the road i bet you feel the same way haha, nice build btw

but what i meant to ask was about your cam choice, is lg the best thats out right now for the 6.2? i cant find any other cams custom specd or otherwise that deliver near the power that the g6x3 cams are. any other brands you recomend before i order this cam?

right now the best thing I can say is try it and see.

When the fast 102 intake comes out, I think that might change some things a little.

thanks for the help man i think i will try it then!

Gmpp > l76

I lost power with the gmpp. After talking with louis from LG, he did as well.

I lost power with the gmpp. After talking with louis from LG, he did as well.

Lost power where?? lol I pull mine to 7500... try that with a L76...

I went 6.75 1/8 mile with the l76 choked up. Never went faster than that with the gmpp. I could have got the l76 faster.

I went 6.75 1/8 mile with the l76 choked up. Never went faster than that with the gmpp. I could have got the l76 faster.

is ur car switched 2 fwd please tell me its not true

is ur car switched 2 fwd please tell me its not true

I'm going to take a wild guess here and say NO, and anyone who thinks it is is pretty stupid.

BTW nice car dlove, good luck on getting into the 9s.

I'm going to take a wild guess here and say NO, and anyone who thinks it is is pretty stupid.

BTW nice car dlove, good luck on getting into the 9s.

Thanks, :chug:

I'm going to take a wild guess here and say NO, and anyone who thinks it is is pretty stupid.

BTW nice car dlove, good luck on getting into the 9s.

phew!! i was scare there i read some of the first comments and they confused me lol nice ride hopefully ill be sporting an ls3 soon

cars looking ace man, how much more power will this motor have compared to the other one?

Who knows. I would guess about ~30 or more. No more than 50.

Hey, did you cut your spare tire well, t-top well, and that other useless well? I'm just curious, cause we have a white camaro very similar to yours. We cut the wells out of the rear end, probly lost about 50 #. (that number is off the top of my head) This is what it looks like.

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Hey, did you cut your spare tire well, t-top well, and that other useless well? I'm just curious, cause we have a white camaro very similar to yours. We cut the wells out of the rear end, probly lost about 50 #. (that number is off the top of my head) This is what it looks like.


I have not, yet. I would like to. I plan on doing all of that when I do some tubs in the rear. I think Chris Morales in the drag tech section lost about 75-100lbs in the rear from doing tubs and cutting extra metal out.

I have not, yet. I would like to. I plan on doing all of that when I do some tubs in the rear. I think Chris Morales in the drag tech section lost about 75-100lbs in the rear from doing tubs and cutting extra metal out.

That's not bad at all. You going with the Wolfe mini-tub kit?

That's not bad at all. You going with the Wolfe mini-tub kit?

I might just do the full tub. As he said he saved a good amount more weight doing that.

I might just do the full tub. As he said he saved a good amount more weight doing that.

damnit boy! lol

so ur cam only ls2 was dipping into the 10's on motor or spray?

the ls2 went 10.4 @ 128 NA

from what ive seen

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/staff-vehicles-showcase/1005853-dloves-ls3-powered-00-z28.html


Motor setup:

LS2 shortblock
Stock Port L92's,
l76 intake / NW 92mm TB.
LG G6x3 cam
SLP 1 3/4 headers, 12'' turn downs off the headers
ASP Crank Underdrive Pulley
NGK TR6 Spark Plugs, MSD Plug Wires
Full EFI Live SD tune.

Transmission:

Powerglide transmission, built myself.
Circle D- 5C 5000 stall
BMR crossmember
Stock steel Driveshaft

Rear End:
10 bolt, 4.11's,

Suspension:
Custom Welded Subframe Connectors
Custom chromoly 6 point
QA1 R's with Afco 275 springs in front
Profab K member
Madman 1 off solid motor mounts
Madman manule rack
Burkhart 2'' drop spindles

Strange double adjustable rear shocks with v6 springs
SJM Tubular Lower Control Arms with Welded in Relocation Brackets
Madman Torque Arm

Performance Statistics:
N/A best with the LS2.
1/4 Mile: 10.46 @ 128, 1.47 60ft


Race weight is 2800 with him in it.

from what ive seen

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/staff-vehicles-showcase/1005853-dloves-ls3-powered-00-z28.html


Motor setup:

LS2 shortblock
Stock Port L92's,
gmpp intake and 2000cfm tb
231/239 pat g cam
SLP 1 3/4 headers, 12'' turn downs off the headers
ASP Crank Underdrive Pulley
NGK TR6 Spark Plugs, MSD Plug Wires
Full EFI Live SD tune.

Transmission:

Powerglide transmission, built myself.
Circle D- 5C 5000 stall
BMR crossmember
Stock steel Driveshaft

Rear End:
10 bolt, 3.73's,

Suspension:
Custom Welded Subframe Connectors
Custom chromoly 6 point
QA1 R's with Afco 275 springs in front
Profab K member
Madman 1 off solid motor mounts


SJM Tubular Lower Control Arms with Welded in Relocation Brackets
sphon Torque Arm

Performance Statistics:
N/A best with the LS2.
1/4 Mile: 10.46 @ 128, 1.47 60ft


Race weight is 2800 with him in it.

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People, how bad ass is that mini-tub job that mad man did? Lets hear it for a sick looking, clever way of losing some weight! Functional too!

People, how bad ass is that mini-tub job that mad man did? Lets hear it for a sick looking, clever way of losing some weight! Functional too!

Thanks for the props!

I'm so sad to hear the bad news..... :barf: Your car was my car's roll model

The only good thing is my car is faster than yours right now :D

collasped a lifter. Most of them that came out are pretty weak. You can push the plunger in with ease. They are LS7 lifters with about 5k miles on them and happened at about 7k rpm with no pryor signs of an issue. Also the spings are patriot extremes with about 1k miles on them.

Valve hit the piston and the piston is now no where to be found. Put a hole in the sleeve.

Motor is done for. Pics soon.

Those pictures are pretty brutal. You have the magical disappearing piston. That's an expensive explosion. I had similar results when my stock engine blew up and trashed the whole thing in my Formula.

What are the plans from here?

dude that sucks! i was so looking forward to the new times! 454lsx from here? lol

Fucking WEAK!! And the weathers just starting to look up for you Kansas boys..Good luck on the new adventure.

Probably just grab up another ls3.

any reason for ls3 in specific? JW.

i can't see any pics. i've been thinking about this swap myself....i take it that it's a straight forward swap, nothing needs to be altered/added in the engine bay?

i can't see any pics. i've been thinking about this swap myself....i take it that it's a straight forward swap, nothing needs to be altered/added in the engine bay?

pics are in the other post....
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/staff-vehicles-showcase/1005853-dloves-ls3-powered-00-z28.html

Wow. Sucks, man. :(

I found what did my motor in. The vvt oil pump.

Found a spun bearing in the bad cylinder. Looks like I probably sucked the pan dry.

The extra slop in the rod cause it to come up more in the cylinder and hit the valve.

Total damage:
1 broken valve
3 bent valves
1 missing piston
1 piston broken off the rod
2 bent rods
2 cylinder sleeves with chunks missing
cracked block
camshaft scored on a few lobes
both heads need lots of work
windage tray bent
Crank scored up

I found what did my motor in. The vvt oil pump.

Found a spun bearing in the bad cylinder. Looks like I probably sucked the pan dry.

The extra slop in the rod cause it to come up more in the cylinder and hit the valve.

Total damage:
1 broken valve
3 bent valves
1 missing piston
1 piston broken off the rod
2 bent rods
2 cylinder sleeves with chunks missing
cracked block
camshaft scored on a few lobes
both heads need lots of work
windage tray bent
Crank scored up
wow man, you tore it up pretty good

You pretty much took out the whole thing. Time to start over and sell the rest for scrap aluminum.

Man that sucks...

Meh, I think he came out ahead :D

414 solid-hydraulic hybrid with nitrous? good god. mid 8's

414 solid-hydraulic hybrid with nitrous? good god. mid 8's

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You going to make a table out of the old motor?

Brad hutchcraft is building a 99 T/A LS3, should be pretty sick too!

cool combo! I grenaded my cam only car a couple years ago like that. I never really figured out why it grenaded though, I know the valve head broke off and went piston to head a few times and that caused the piston to bust in a million pieces and fall down into the crankcase and take out a few more rods. The block was completely destroyed, you couldnt even put sleeves in if you wanted to. But the cam/springs/lifters/pushrods were all fine, I even built another motor with them!

+1 for LSX coffee tables!

^^^James is gay

so i bought a ls3 short block short i take out my vvt oil pump??

which pump should i use?

please pm me i jsut got really scared

so i bought a ls3 short block short i take out my vvt oil pump??

which pump should i use?

please pm me i jsut got really scared

search for ls4 oil pump. There is a huge thread about them.

getting ready to run it?

yup, just working out all the little bugs. had the first successful trip around the block today lol

Them damn f-in' bugs!!! Squash em to hell!!! How's it feel to be back in the car again? :chug:

Them damn f-in' bugs!!! Squash em to hell!!! How's it feel to be back in the car again? :chug:


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